Anonymous
07/04/2025 17:22
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Well, among 18 year olds today, Cornell has a few things going for it. Dyson is quite the thing these days with a roughly 3 percent admission rate. Dyson, Wharton, and Stern are the "it" schools when it comes to undergrad business. And Cornell also has a renowned college of engineering. It might not be the happiest college of engineering, but it is one of the best.
And business and engineering really separate Cornell from most of the other Ivies today. Princeton is solid in engineering. And Penn has Wharton of course. But overall, Cornell does great in the majors that bright students actually want to study. I'm sure Yale is better in Art History, but Cornell brings it in the pre-professional programs that attract most smart students today. Which is why Cornell is appealing. And of course it's a good overall school.
At the private’s my kids attend, it’s seen as the least desirable Ivy and the easiest admit (by a large margin). I know lots of Cornell alum who love it, but it’s very weird that someone is starting multiple threads cheerleading Cornell today.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 17:08
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Cornell was never the worst Ivy.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 16:02
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tier 1: HYP
Tier 2: Wharton, Dyson
Tier 3: Columbia CC SEAS, Penn non-Wharton, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell non-Dyson non-contract.
Tier 4: Cornell contract colleges
Agree?
Huh?
Who cares about these distinctions? Bored ppl?
No one cares about the contract college thing. At least in recruiting.
I am 100% convinced people that do this did not attend nor have a child that attends, and are still in the research and yet to apply stage. No one does this that is affiliated.
+100
Also: GO BIG RED! 🐻
Anonymous
07/04/2025 16:00
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tier 1: HYP
Tier 2: Wharton, Dyson
Tier 3: Columbia CC SEAS, Penn non-Wharton, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell non-Dyson non-contract.
Tier 4: Cornell contract colleges
Agree?
Huh?
Who cares about these distinctions? Bored ppl?
No one cares about the contract college thing. At least in recruiting.
I am 100% convinced people that do this did not attend nor have a child that attends, and are still in the research and yet to apply stage. No one does this that is affiliated.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:41
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Tier 1: HYP
Tier 2: Wharton, Dyson
Tier 3: Columbia CC SEAS, Penn non-Wharton, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell non-Dyson non-contract.
Tier 4: Cornell contract colleges
Agree?
Huh?
Who cares about these distinctions? Bored ppl?
No one cares about the contract college thing. At least in recruiting.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:39
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Well, among 18 year olds today, Cornell has a few things going for it. Dyson is quite the thing these days with a roughly 3 percent admission rate. Dyson, Wharton, and Stern are the "it" schools when it comes to undergrad business. And Cornell also has a renowned college of engineering. It might not be the happiest college of engineering, but it is one of the best.
And business and engineering really separate Cornell from most of the other Ivies today. Princeton is solid in engineering. And Penn has Wharton of course. But overall, Cornell does great in the majors that bright students actually want to study. I'm sure Yale is better in Art History, but Cornell brings it in the pre-professional programs that attract most smart students today. Which is why Cornell is appealing. And of course it's a good overall school.
Look at the IB feeder numbers for Cornell. Not just Dyson either.
Pretty impressive.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:38
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Anonymous wrote:With Cornell consistently ranking above Brown and Dartmouth in the USNews rankings isn't it safe to say that Cornell is a middle ivy now? Also Cornell is extremely strong in STEM which will continue to grow as the primary basis for university reputation across the world. Also given a lot of the bad press around Columbia I would say the tiers now are:
Tier 1: HYP
Tier 2: Penn, Cornell
Tier 3: Columbia
Tier 4: Brown, Dartmouth
DD/friends anecdotally say the USN rankings in the last couple of years have changed things and they refer to Cornell as a T10, while Brown and Dartmouth are considered just OK T20s.
Agree 💯
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:33
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Well, among 18 year olds today, Cornell has a few things going for it. Dyson is quite the thing these days with a roughly 3 percent admission rate. Dyson, Wharton, and Stern are the "it" schools when it comes to undergrad business. And Cornell also has a renowned college of engineering. It might not be the happiest college of engineering, but it is one of the best.
And business and engineering really separate Cornell from most of the other Ivies today. Princeton is solid in engineering. And Penn has Wharton of course. But overall, Cornell does great in the majors that bright students actually want to study. I'm sure Yale is better in Art History, but Cornell brings it in the pre-professional programs that attract most smart students today. Which is why Cornell is appealing. And of course it's a good overall school.
And business and engineering really separate Cornell from most of the other Ivies today. Princeton is solid in engineering. And Penn has Wharton of course. But overall, Cornell does great in the majors that bright students actually want to study. I'm sure Yale is better in Art History, but Cornell brings it in the pre-professional programs that attract most smart students today. Which is why Cornell is appealing. And of course it's a good overall school.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:29
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Kids definitely don’t consider Cornell as prestigious as the others. It’s a significantly easier admit, at least from private school.
Cornell is an easier admit in NYC public school as well.
Cornell also accepts a lot from California public schools. California kids would attend if they didn't get into UCB UCLA UCSD.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:26
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Kids definitely don’t consider Cornell as prestigious as the others. It’s a significantly easier admit, at least from private school.
Kendra, I’m so grateful that you’re able to listen in on the kids while they’re hanging out by the pool. You really are the cool mom. And I’m not just saying that because you turn a blind eye to their drinking at your house.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:21
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
No one who knows anything cares about USNWR rankings. Cornell is the easiest Ivy to get into and people who don’t understand college in the US go there because it’s an Ivy.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:18
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
This thread is like an ESPN power ranking for universities, and about as important.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:17
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Kids definitely don’t consider Cornell as prestigious as the others. It’s a significantly easier admit, at least from private school.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:16
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
It’s the easiest Ivy to get in but the hardest one to graduate. I have more respect for Cornell grads than HYP grads.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:15
Subject: Is Cornell really still the "worst" ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Cornell tends to place as the top Ivy for engineering.
Top engineering kids tend to go to MIT Stanford CMU UIUC for engineering.