Anonymous wrote:My kid isn’t pre-med but most of their friends at their T-25 are. Lots of anxiety over getting into certain lab sections, hard to get into pre-med extracurriculars, and the anxiety over getting a pre-med internship (research, shadowing) seems to start right after first year orientation.

Is this a public? Everyone gets into premed courses and labs at kid's non-ivy T15. They open more sections if they fill. Literally every single student can get undergrad research in something. There are endless volunteer organizations to get involved with, many no cuts. Sure everyone wants to join a certain premed club as freshmen, but then they realize there are a hundred other groups to make a difference and show that you care about humanity. There are so many professors who mention "ask me about research" at the start of classes. Kid has a very good friend at an ivy and it is the same situation. The only person we have heard of having a bit of a rough go with classes is at Berkeley. But they did eventually get in to all the ones needed.

Anonymous wrote:Go to Alabama for free.

Not a smart move if medical school is the goal (or a great education, for that matter): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-medical-school

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Anonymous wrote:Mine is at a top school, with lots of premed and lots of grade DEflation. Keeping grades up is difficult, but the resources at the school are amazing.

Name the school, no top school has DE flation. I work in med school consulting and know the typical GPAs from all top schools. The medians are all between 3.65 and 3.9 Harvard/Brown being at the top and Princeton/Penn being lower. MIT has a 5 point system and is in its own group. It is a very small percentage of the graduates across all areas that have less than a B+ average/3.3 the past few years. Sure it is hard work to get above the average but there is no deflation

What about with top public schools- Berkeley, UNC-CH, UCLA, UCSD, etc.

Also have you considered many students got lower grades in week out classes so don’t apply to med school. Only the top students are applying.

Anonymous wrote:Is there any one from Chicago? DC is interested in Chicago but is intimidated by their high pressure culture.

Tough but manageable. I wouldn’t say it’s high pressure culture. But quarter system is fast paced.

Anonymous wrote:Is there any one from Chicago? DC is interested in Chicago but is intimidated by their high pressure culture.

Chicago has graded distributions similar to ivies, high average mcat scores and excellent med school matriculation. Premeds are no more miserable there than anywhere else in the top 10-15.

Anonymous wrote:Mine is at a top school, with lots of premed and lots of grade DEflation. Keeping grades up is difficult, but the resources at the school are amazing.

Name the school, no top school has DE flation. I work in med school consulting and know the typical GPAs from all top schools. The medians are all between 3.65 and 3.9 Harvard/Brown being at the top and Princeton/Penn being lower. MIT has a 5 point system and is in its own group. It is a very small percentage of the graduates across all areas that have less than a B+ average/3.3 the past few years. Sure it is hard work to get above the average but there is no deflation

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Anonymous wrote:What’s a “selective” college?

For premed, there is really no need for a selective college. You can do it in any Slacs that have a decent premed advisory. WASP all have superior premed outcome. But even a t25 lac would works for premed.

Not so sure. I know a few recent ones from T25-35 range LACs and despite their high GPAs the mcat scores were awful despite year of prep and multiple takes, they had no hospital or research experience available close to campus so the schools encourage gap years for that. they reported very few from their school get into med school in the US, they go to Caribbean or give up on the dream.

That's not fair. PP says T25 lac, not T25 to T35.
For example, Haverford ranked #24 and has outstanding premed outcome.

Haverford is one of the top feeders for top medical schools, along with WASP, Bowdoin, Wellesley, and many more. Some would also add Davison.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s a “selective” college?

For premed, there is really no need for a selective college. You can do it in any Slacs that have a decent premed advisory. WASP all have superior premed outcome. But even a t25 lac would works for premed.

Not so sure. I know a few recent ones from T25-35 range LACs and despite their high GPAs the mcat scores were awful despite year of prep and multiple takes, they had no hospital or research experience available close to campus so the schools encourage gap years for that. they reported very few from their school get into med school in the US, they go to Caribbean or give up on the dream.

No teaching hospital and medical ec opportunities is one thing but the low mcat scores is on the kids themselves (I don’t mean that unkindly) rather than the school.

Source-physician involved in interviews and great mcats come from everywhere, including where most relavent classes were taken at community college and especially post bac programs ( where they take all the pre med pre reqs in less than a year before the mcat.) if you’re going to an accredited school and not doing well on the mcat it’s not likely to be the school.

Go to Alabama for free.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any one from Chicago? DC is interested in Chicago but is intimidated by their high pressure culture.

If you can’t handle college pressure, you won’t be able to handle medical school process/medical school. It’s crazy stressful.

NOT every post about Chicago is intended to disparage this school. A discussion on medical school experience in various schools including Chicago is helpful to many premed kids. Could you please go somewhere else if you don't like to see this topic?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any one from Chicago? DC is interested in Chicago but is intimidated by their high pressure culture.

If you can’t handle college pressure, you won’t be able to handle medical school process/medical school. It’s crazy stressful.

NOT every post about Chicago is intended to disparage this school. A discussion on medical school experience in various schools including Chicago is helpful to many premed kids. Could you please go somewhere else if you don't like to see this topic?

Anonymous wrote:Is there any one from Chicago? DC is interested in Chicago but is intimidated by their high pressure culture.

If you can’t handle college pressure, you won’t be able to handle medical school process/medical school. It’s crazy stressful.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s a “selective” college?

For premed, there is really no need for a selective college. You can do it in any Slacs that have a decent premed advisory. WASP all have superior premed outcome. But even a t25 lac would works for premed.

Not so sure. I know a few recent ones from T25-35 range LACs and despite their high GPAs the mcat scores were awful despite year of prep and multiple takes, they had no hospital or research experience available close to campus so the schools encourage gap years for that. they reported very few from their school get into med school in the US, they go to Caribbean or give up on the dream.

That's not fair. PP says T25 lac, not T25 to T35.
For example, Haverford ranked #24 and has outstanding premed outcome.

Is there any one from Chicago? DC is interested in Chicago but is intimidated by their high pressure culture.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s a “selective” college?

For premed, there is really no need for a selective college. You can do it in any Slacs that have a decent premed advisory. WASP all have superior premed outcome. But even a t25 lac would works for premed.

Not so sure. I know a few recent ones from T25-35 range LACs and despite their high GPAs the mcat scores were awful despite year of prep and multiple takes, they had no hospital or research experience available close to campus so the schools encourage gap years for that. they reported very few from their school get into med school in the US, they go to Caribbean or give up on the dream.