Anonymous wrote:My friend is in a primarily remote fintech, and he reports that some of his colleagues go golfing in the middle of the day, just for pleasure and not for any work purpose. They still only "work" an 8-hour day that includes the golf.

Are they programmer who ship lots of code fast? Or sales guys who have numbers to meet and that’s it.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was in private practice (law) in NYC, I worked 12+ hours day. I mean, sitting there in front of two monitors, reviewing and drafting documents virtually non-stop.

I'm under the impression that the stereotypical corporate job is doing 1-2 hours of actual work and then playing on your phone or surfing the web for 6 hours. No?

No, in jobs where it's impossible to measure productivity, we still expect the junior staff to work a solid 8 hours. Things get murkier the higher you climb up the ladder. I'm incredibly Busy, but it's not possible for me to measure the value of most of my activities or time. I may go weeks just being available for people in leadership to talk to or have meetings with. I don't know if any of it has any value or I'm just satisfying a hman need for interaction / ADD.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was in private practice (law) in NYC, I worked 12+ hours day. I mean, sitting there in front of two monitors, reviewing and drafting documents virtually non-stop.

I'm under the impression that the stereotypical corporate job is doing 1-2 hours of actual work and then playing on your phone or surfing the web for 6 hours. No?

No, in jobs where it's possible to measure productivity, we still expect the junior staff to work a solid 8 hours. Things get murkier the higher you climb up the ladder. I'm incredibly Busy, but it's not possible for me to measure the value of most of my activities or time. I may go weeks just being available for people in leadership to talk to or have meetings with. I don't know if any of it has any value or I'm just satisfying a hman need for interaction / ADD.

My friend is in a primarily remote fintech, and he reports that some of his colleagues go golfing in the middle of the day, just for pleasure and not for any work purpose. They still only "work" an 8-hour day that includes the golf.

When I was in private practice (law) in NYC, I worked 12+ hours day. I mean, sitting there in front of two monitors, reviewing and drafting documents virtually non-stop.

I'm under the impression that the stereotypical corporate job is doing 1-2 hours of actual work and then playing on your phone or surfing the web for 6 hours. No?

I work in comms at a large nation nonprofit. I answer emails starting at 8, but my meetings don’t start until 10 or 11…. Many times I work late, sending and responding to emails until 7 or 8… it never seems to end. I have to work on my vacation on Monday to virtually staff my principal for a TV interview. But I get to work from home 3 days a week, and when I go to the office, I’m often only there from 10-4 (again returning home to work remotely). Can’t complain about my hours, though phones make it hard to not always be working.

Most of my friends and I reliably work 830-430/5 in chicago. We all have daycare pick ups at 5-530.

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Anonymous wrote:There are certain jobs that require insane hours like ibanking, law, accounting, consulting etc. But most people work a core 8 hours

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Because these jobs are client facing and involve billable hours. A lot of those hours are face time.

Eh not really. Did the consulting gig for a while. For any 1 hour with a client there's be 30 stuck in a conference room having horse shit huddles.

Yep, let's change the PowerPoint for the 500th time just to keep everyone in the office longer.

This shade of navy is different from the navy you used on page 6!