Anonymous wrote:Smart kids need to learn how to use AI.

We are now teaching people at work how to use it and it’s like come on man high school students configured this out.

The smart kids use it to edit their papers, brainstorm, check, grammar, etc.

Really smart ones popped their syllabus into it and ask for to write a study guide.

Savy ones can put their whole wardrobe in there and ask for it to pop out a bunch of outfits for the week. Most of. DC could use that

Please run your post through AI, then. It’s riddled with errors.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been out of college for a long time, but I saw something on the news about this.

Is it true that college students are using AI to write their papers for their classes? Even at elite colleges! What can we do to stop this?

I asked my nephew, and he said he doesn’t use it, but he could be an outlier.

My opinion is that kids are going to use it. The best way to address it is to help them understand the most efficient ways to use it, what its limitations are, and that you always need to cross-reference what AI gives you. They still need to do the work, understand the concepts, etc., because AI could produce an answer or essay that is totally off base. It's a good tool for generating outlines, for giving you an idea on how to sharpen a paragraph you've written, and, if you feed it text that you are having trouble understanding, it can break it down and make things easier to understand.

My college-aged daughter has used it, and we have had these discussions. She understands the limitations; she has caught AI giving inaccurate answers, but does feel it is a useful tool for helping her get started on essays by generating a sample draft.

I use AI for parts of my work, but I wouldn't advise anyone new in my position to use it until they have a good grasp on what their work product should include and strong knowledge of the required content. It is going to be available to this generation as they move into the work field, so perhaps college is the time for them to learn how to use it responsibly and apply analytical skills to ensure AI produces accurate work products.

AI content generation constitutes academic dishonesty in most disciplines. Good luck to her.

Give it a rest. I bet when calculators were first introduced that was also considered academic dishonesty.

And if using them was against the school rule at the time, it WAS academic dishonesty. It doesn’t matter that they are ubiquitous now.

DC’s math tests (Alg 2/Trig, but I believe other classes do the same at the school) all have two sections - the first in which they are not allowed to use a calculator. They have to hand that section in and receive the second, calculator-allowed section before they can take out their calculators. Using a calculator on the non-calculator section is cheating and would constitute academic dishonesty.

Using genAI in a way disallowed by the school or the professor is academic dishonesty, even if you don’t care because “everyone does it” or because AI will be everywhere in less time than in took calculators to become common household items.

Anonymous wrote:Smart kids need to learn how to use AI.

We are now teaching people at work how to use it and it’s like come on man high school students configured this out.

The smart kids use it to edit their papers, brainstorm, check, grammar, etc.

Really smart ones popped their syllabus into it and ask for to write a study guide.

Savy ones can put their whole wardrobe in there and ask for it to pop out a bunch of outfits for the week. Most of. DC could use that

I’m baffled by this idea that there’s a “smart” way and a dumb way to use it. As if learning how to craft the prompts is so difficult. It is what it is. You click a button and it does very thing for you in an instant. Is that amazing? Yes. Is that useful? Sure. Does it indicate your level of intelligence or savvy? No, it doesn’t.

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile out in the workplace, employers want you to incorporate it as appropriate

Go ahead and incorporate yourself right out of a job.

Smart kids need to learn how to use AI.

We are now teaching people at work how to use it and it’s like come on man high school students configured this out.

The smart kids use it to edit their papers, brainstorm, check, grammar, etc.

Really smart ones popped their syllabus into it and ask for to write a study guide.

Savy ones can put their whole wardrobe in there and ask for it to pop out a bunch of outfits for the week. Most of. DC could use that

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been out of college for a long time, but I saw something on the news about this.

Is it true that college students are using AI to write their papers for their classes? Even at elite colleges! What can we do to stop this?

I asked my nephew, and he said he doesn’t use it, but he could be an outlier.

My opinion is that kids are going to use it. The best way to address it is to help them understand the most efficient ways to use it, what its limitations are, and that you always need to cross-reference what AI gives you. They still need to do the work, understand the concepts, etc., because AI could produce an answer or essay that is totally off base. It's a good tool for generating outlines, for giving you an idea on how to sharpen a paragraph you've written, and, if you feed it text that you are having trouble understanding, it can break it down and make things easier to understand.

My college-aged daughter has used it, and we have had these discussions. She understands the limitations; she has caught AI giving inaccurate answers, but does feel it is a useful tool for helping her get started on essays by generating a sample draft.

I use AI for parts of my work, but I wouldn't advise anyone new in my position to use it until they have a good grasp on what their work product should include and strong knowledge of the required content. It is going to be available to this generation as they move into the work field, so perhaps college is the time for them to learn how to use it responsibly and apply analytical skills to ensure AI produces accurate work products.

AI content generation constitutes academic dishonesty in most disciplines. Good luck to her.

Give it a rest. I bet when calculators were first introduced that was also considered academic dishonesty.

Meanwhile out in the workplace, employers want you to incorporate it as appropriate

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been out of college for a long time, but I saw something on the news about this.

Is it true that college students are using AI to write their papers for their classes? Even at elite colleges! What can we do to stop this?

I asked my nephew, and he said he doesn’t use it, but he could be an outlier.

Of course they are. They started the day Chat GPT was released 2+ years ago. Ask me how I know.

They only way to 'stop' it is to write essays in class on paper. My college kid has had a few of those.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been out of college for a long time, but I saw something on the news about this.

Is it true that college students are using AI to write their papers for their classes? Even at elite colleges! What can we do to stop this?

I asked my nephew, and he said he doesn’t use it, but he could be an outlier.

My opinion is that kids are going to use it. The best way to address it is to help them understand the most efficient ways to use it, what its limitations are, and that you always need to cross-reference what AI gives you. They still need to do the work, understand the concepts, etc., because AI could produce an answer or essay that is totally off base. It's a good tool for generating outlines, for giving you an idea on how to sharpen a paragraph you've written, and, if you feed it text that you are having trouble understanding, it can break it down and make things easier to understand.

My college-aged daughter has used it, and we have had these discussions. She understands the limitations; she has caught AI giving inaccurate answers, but does feel it is a useful tool for helping her get started on essays by generating a sample draft.

I use AI for parts of my work, but I wouldn't advise anyone new in my position to use it until they have a good grasp on what their work product should include and strong knowledge of the required content. It is going to be available to this generation as they move into the work field, so perhaps college is the time for them to learn how to use it responsibly and apply analytical skills to ensure AI produces accurate work products.

AI content generation constitutes academic dishonesty in most disciplines. Good luck to her.

PP here - I meant to say simple outline, and many of her professors have given the greenlight on outlines. However, they ask that the students disclose that they used AI as a tool.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been out of college for a long time, but I saw something on the news about this.

Is it true that college students are using AI to write their papers for their classes? Even at elite colleges! What can we do to stop this?

I asked my nephew, and he said he doesn’t use it, but he could be an outlier.

My opinion is that kids are going to use it. The best way to address it is to help them understand the most efficient ways to use it, what its limitations are, and that you always need to cross-reference what AI gives you. They still need to do the work, understand the concepts, etc., because AI could produce an answer or essay that is totally off base. It's a good tool for generating outlines, for giving you an idea on how to sharpen a paragraph you've written, and, if you feed it text that you are having trouble understanding, it can break it down and make things easier to understand.

My college-aged daughter has used it, and we have had these discussions. She understands the limitations; she has caught AI giving inaccurate answers, but does feel it is a useful tool for helping her get started on essays by generating a sample draft.

I use AI for parts of my work, but I wouldn't advise anyone new in my position to use it until they have a good grasp on what their work product should include and strong knowledge of the required content. It is going to be available to this generation as they move into the work field, so perhaps college is the time for them to learn how to use it responsibly and apply analytical skills to ensure AI produces accurate work products.

AI content generation constitutes academic dishonesty in most disciplines. Good luck to her.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been out of college for a long time, but I saw something on the news about this.

Is it true that college students are using AI to write their papers for their classes? Even at elite colleges! What can we do to stop this?

I asked my nephew, and he said he doesn’t use it, but he could be an outlier.

My opinion is that kids are going to use it. The best way to address it is to help them understand the most efficient ways to use it, what its limitations are, and that you always need to cross-reference what AI gives you. They still need to do the work, understand the concepts, etc., because AI could produce an answer or essay that is totally off base. It's a good tool for generating outlines, for giving you an idea on how to sharpen a paragraph you've written, and, if you feed it text that you are having trouble understanding, it can break it down and make things easier to understand.

My college-aged daughter has used it, and we have had these discussions. She understands the limitations; she has caught AI giving inaccurate answers, but does feel it is a useful tool for helping her get started on essays by generating a sample draft.

I use AI for parts of my work, but I wouldn't advise anyone new in my position to use it until they have a good grasp on what their work product should include and strong knowledge of the required content. It is going to be available to this generation as they move into the work field, so perhaps college is the time for them to learn how to use it responsibly and apply analytical skills to ensure AI produces accurate work products.

Yes. and my kids who graduated very recently use it almost daily in their jobs. one in marketing and one in sales/research.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes 99%

It’s widespread but not nearly universal. As with any type of cheating, some kids are drawn to shortcuts and others understand that the point of the assignments is to learn.

People need to read the Cut Article. It's actually like 90%...so not 99%. If you google it you may be able to find a gift link to it.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/openai-chatgpt-ai-cheating-education-college-students-school.html

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been out of college for a long time, but I saw something on the news about this.

Is it true that college students are using AI to write their papers for their classes? Even at elite colleges! What can we do to stop this?

I asked my nephew, and he said he doesn’t use it, but he could be an outlier.

Take away the "out" part.

Some yes,some no.