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Anonymous wrote:I only know of athletic recruits. The class is small, so a good percentage of students are athletes. They don’t really lower academic standards for athletes, but the needed ability isn’t that high - some accepted didn’t even make varsity at their high school.

That’s totally dependent on the sport. Men’s soccer, for instance, has a new coach who is ambitious. They are recruiting mls next level players. I know an athletic recruit that is going there next year. 800 sat math, 4.0; ap calculus in 8h grade, math competitions, research with two professors at a relatively prestigious state university, name on published paper, 3 different ap physics classes, etc.

Probably…their basketball team hasn’t won a game in years and their baseball team’s 10 wins (and 30 losses) matched their record high number from the late 1960s.

For baseball, coach said nearly 1/2 of each class’s players are walk-ons. They get accepted on their own and then play. All played before and many are decent…this isn’t randoms getting to play.

Doing the math - the total count is about 1000 (google search not exact). Given 16(both Men and Women counted separately) varsity sports - Doesn't that mean the number of athletes are greater than the non-athletes?

Caltech is really a jock school masquerading as an elite tech school.

Again, easily 1/2 of their athletes aren't recruited at all. The coach doesn't even know they exist until after they are accepted.

Feels like a school needs to be able to have some winning seasons every now and then to remotely lay claim that it is a jock school.

MIT is a completely different animal with sports recruiting and does win D3 championships (I think two this past year). Of course, it's a larger school.

I know athletes who got in to both who would not have been accepted based on stats/EC's without recruiting.

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Anonymous wrote:I only know of athletic recruits. The class is small, so a good percentage of students are athletes. They don’t really lower academic standards for athletes, but the needed ability isn’t that high - some accepted didn’t even make varsity at their high school.

That’s totally dependent on the sport. Men’s soccer, for instance, has a new coach who is ambitious. They are recruiting mls next level players. I know an athletic recruit that is going there next year. 800 sat math, 4.0; ap calculus in 8h grade, math competitions, research with two professors at a relatively prestigious state university, name on published paper, 3 different ap physics classes, etc.

Probably…their basketball team hasn’t won a game in years and their baseball team’s 10 wins (and 30 losses) matched their record high number from the late 1960s.

For baseball, coach said nearly 1/2 of each class’s players are walk-ons. They get accepted on their own and then play. All played before and many are decent…this isn’t randoms getting to play.

Doing the math - the total count is about 1000 (google search not exact). Given 16(both Men and Women counted separately) varsity sports - Doesn't that mean the number of athletes are greater than the non-athletes?

Caltech is really a jock school masquerading as an elite tech school.

Again, easily 1/2 of their athletes aren't recruited at all. The coach doesn't even know they exist until after they are accepted.

Feels like a school needs to be able to have some winning seasons every now and then to remotely lay claim that it is a jock school.

MIT is a completely different animal with sports recruiting and does win D3 championships (I think two this past year). Of course, it's a larger school.

My kid is being recruited there. Kids need to get in on their own. Coach can refer them but there is no true preread and without high stats, they do not get in.

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Anonymous wrote:Two boys from our non DC private. One had pretty high level research, not sure about the other.

WTF does that even mean, for a HS kid? What utter nonsense people write here.

Meaning he contributed to a research project that was real, not made up for application. First gen kid, project resulted in an article in peer reviewed article for the main investigator. Kid was brought along to European conference where research was presented, and then he himself presented it to his classmates at an assembly.

Seems the only one writing nonsense is you.

Yes, the kid I knew also was on a team for research that was published and they traveled and presented there and then he presented again back in the states. He was not first gen. He was accepted but is going to go to a different school in the fall that is just as prestigious. These are not your average bright kids that are top of the class at the local HS. I’m purposely being vague with my details.

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Anonymous wrote:I only know of athletic recruits. The class is small, so a good percentage of students are athletes. They don’t really lower academic standards for athletes, but the needed ability isn’t that high - some accepted didn’t even make varsity at their high school.

That’s totally dependent on the sport. Men’s soccer, for instance, has a new coach who is ambitious. They are recruiting mls next level players. I know an athletic recruit that is going there next year. 800 sat math, 4.0; ap calculus in 8h grade, math competitions, research with two professors at a relatively prestigious state university, name on published paper, 3 different ap physics classes, etc.

Probably…their basketball team hasn’t won a game in years and their baseball team’s 10 wins (and 30 losses) matched their record high number from the late 1960s.

For baseball, coach said nearly 1/2 of each class’s players are walk-ons. They get accepted on their own and then play. All played before and many are decent…this isn’t randoms getting to play.

Doing the math - the total count is about 1000 (google search not exact). Given 16(both Men and Women counted separately) varsity sports - Doesn't that mean the number of athletes are greater than the non-athletes?

Caltech is really a jock school masquerading as an elite tech school.

Brilliant analysis! Not flawed at all. You only have to be on campus for five minutes to realize it’s totally a jock school. Which means it cannot be an elite tech school.

I don’t even know anybody who applied. Hope this helps.

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Anonymous wrote:I only know of athletic recruits. The class is small, so a good percentage of students are athletes. They don’t really lower academic standards for athletes, but the needed ability isn’t that high - some accepted didn’t even make varsity at their high school.

That’s totally dependent on the sport. Men’s soccer, for instance, has a new coach who is ambitious. They are recruiting mls next level players. I know an athletic recruit that is going there next year. 800 sat math, 4.0; ap calculus in 8h grade, math competitions, research with two professors at a relatively prestigious state university, name on published paper, 3 different ap physics classes, etc.

Probably…their basketball team hasn’t won a game in years and their baseball team’s 10 wins (and 30 losses) matched their record high number from the late 1960s.

For baseball, coach said nearly 1/2 of each class’s players are walk-ons. They get accepted on their own and then play. All played before and many are decent…this isn’t randoms getting to play.

Doing the math - the total count is about 1000 (google search not exact). Given 16(both Men and Women counted separately) varsity sports - Doesn't that mean the number of athletes are greater than the non-athletes?

Caltech is really a jock school masquerading as an elite tech school.

Again, easily 1/2 of their athletes aren't recruited at all. The coach doesn't even know they exist until after they are accepted.

Feels like a school needs to be able to have some winning seasons every now and then to remotely lay claim that it is a jock school.

MIT is a completely different animal with sports recruiting and does win D3 championships (I think two this past year). Of course, it's a larger school.

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Anonymous wrote:I only know of athletic recruits. The class is small, so a good percentage of students are athletes. They don’t really lower academic standards for athletes, but the needed ability isn’t that high - some accepted didn’t even make varsity at their high school.

That’s totally dependent on the sport. Men’s soccer, for instance, has a new coach who is ambitious. They are recruiting mls next level players. I know an athletic recruit that is going there next year. 800 sat math, 4.0; ap calculus in 8h grade, math competitions, research with two professors at a relatively prestigious state university, name on published paper, 3 different ap physics classes, etc.

Probably…their basketball team hasn’t won a game in years and their baseball team’s 10 wins (and 30 losses) matched their record high number from the late 1960s.

For baseball, coach said nearly 1/2 of each class’s players are walk-ons. They get accepted on their own and then play. All played before and many are decent…this isn’t randoms getting to play.

Doing the math - the total count is about 1000 (google search not exact). Given 16(both Men and Women counted separately) varsity sports - Doesn't that mean the number of athletes are greater than the non-athletes?

Caltech is really a jock school masquerading as an elite tech school.

Exactly! To stay on the rankings, they suddenly dropped from 415 admitted students in 2023 to 310 in 2024. The ad comm cited overenrollment in 2023. That same year, the professors sent a letter to the admissions complaining about he quality of students over the past few years. Caltech is the one that argued against needing testing data, and now they want not only SAT/ACT scores but also AP scores. I guess the ad comm's goal of reaching the acceptance rates to 2% is achieved, and now they know prestige-chasing people will apply for another decade, seeing that number.

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Anonymous wrote:I only know of athletic recruits. The class is small, so a good percentage of students are athletes. They don’t really lower academic standards for athletes, but the needed ability isn’t that high - some accepted didn’t even make varsity at their high school.

That’s totally dependent on the sport. Men’s soccer, for instance, has a new coach who is ambitious. They are recruiting mls next level players. I know an athletic recruit that is going there next year. 800 sat math, 4.0; ap calculus in 8h grade, math competitions, research with two professors at a relatively prestigious state university, name on published paper, 3 different ap physics classes, etc.

I know a student who accomplished more (in academics) than the above student, but was not a sports recruit, got deferred, and was then denied last year.

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Anonymous wrote:I only know of athletic recruits. The class is small, so a good percentage of students are athletes. They don’t really lower academic standards for athletes, but the needed ability isn’t that high - some accepted didn’t even make varsity at their high school.

That’s totally dependent on the sport. Men’s soccer, for instance, has a new coach who is ambitious. They are recruiting mls next level players. I know an athletic recruit that is going there next year. 800 sat math, 4.0; ap calculus in 8h grade, math competitions, research with two professors at a relatively prestigious state university, name on published paper, 3 different ap physics classes, etc.

Probably…their basketball team hasn’t won a game in years and their baseball team’s 10 wins (and 30 losses) matched their record high number from the late 1960s.

For baseball, coach said nearly 1/2 of each class’s players are walk-ons. They get accepted on their own and then play. All played before and many are decent…this isn’t randoms getting to play.

Doing the math - the total count is about 1000 (google search not exact). Given 16(both Men and Women counted separately) varsity sports - Doesn't that mean the number of athletes are greater than the non-athletes?

Caltech is really a jock school masquerading as an elite tech school.

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Anonymous wrote:Two boys from our non DC private. One had pretty high level research, not sure about the other.

WTF does that even mean, for a HS kid? What utter nonsense people write here.

Meaning he contributed to a research project that was real, not made up for application. First gen kid, project resulted in an article in peer reviewed article for the main investigator. Kid was brought along to European conference where research was presented, and then he himself presented it to his classmates at an assembly.

Seems the only one writing nonsense is you.

Adding this was not a Covid admission, two kids from our east coast private this cycle.

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Anonymous wrote:Two boys from our non DC private. One had pretty high level research, not sure about the other.

WTF does that even mean, for a HS kid? What utter nonsense people write here.

Meaning he contributed to a research project that was real, not made up for application. First gen kid, project resulted in an article in peer reviewed article for the main investigator. Kid was brought along to European conference where research was presented, and then he himself presented it to his classmates at an assembly.

Seems the only one writing nonsense is you.

My daughter's boyfriend was accepted (4.0 and 1580) but he is going to Stanford instead. During high school, he was taking advanced math classes at a nearby college.

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Anonymous wrote:I only know of athletic recruits. The class is small, so a good percentage of students are athletes. They don’t really lower academic standards for athletes, but the needed ability isn’t that high - some accepted didn’t even make varsity at their high school.

That’s totally dependent on the sport. Men’s soccer, for instance, has a new coach who is ambitious. They are recruiting mls next level players. I know an athletic recruit that is going there next year. 800 sat math, 4.0; ap calculus in 8h grade, math competitions, research with two professors at a relatively prestigious state university, name on published paper, 3 different ap physics classes, etc.

Probably…their basketball team hasn’t won a game in years and their baseball team’s 10 wins (and 30 losses) matched their record high number from the late 1960s.

For baseball, coach said nearly 1/2 of each class’s players are walk-ons. They get accepted on their own and then play. All played before and many are decent…this isn’t randoms getting to play.

Yes, female in MoCo. Top rigor in all areas; math through Multivariable; at least 15 APs; 4.0 uw; National Merit semi-finalist; President of several clubs; good in art and debate. And a great friend and human, too!

Two from the Blair magnet, both athletic recruits.