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Anonymous wrote:I think you can change your body’s set point to an extent via habits. When I was in college I ate very poorly and didn’t exercise, was around 190+ lbs. After college I started exercising and eating healthier and ever since then I have hovered 165-175. It’s not a huge change but it feels like my new set point. I am a 5’11 male for reference.

Not much of a difference. For your height and being male your body probably wants to be around 200lbs to stay healthy, unless you are over 65 then a lighter weight would be more normal.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing, which is why the vast majority who lose weight, and doesn't matter if it's WW, Jenny Craig, Noom, Optifast or the new injectable meds, gain the weight back

Are you’d saying there’s no such thing as a set point weight or no such thing as resetting it?

I was told in a college class by a anesthesiology professor that it took 6 months to reset a set point.

But later told there's no such thing as resetting it because fat cells never die, they just shrink unless surgically removed.

So does that mean liposuction would make you feel less hungry??

In theory, yes. In practice, no -- because it wouldn't remove enough cells to affect this.

So you're saying fat cells are what make you hungry??

Isn't that what fairly recent science shows? Recent as in several years, but still not that old.

IDK. I haven't heard this theory before. It sounds suspect. Perhaps the amount of fat cells present play a role; but I'm not buying the assertion that they themselves cause hunger.

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Leptin helps prevent hunger.

This hormone doesn’t affect your hunger levels and food intake from meal to meal. Instead, it acts to alter food intake and control energy usage over a long time to help maintain your weight.

DP but just adding to this that people can become resistant to leptin as well. Many overweight people produce tons of leptin but it doesn't work as well anymore, similar to how they produce tons of insulin but it doesn't work as well anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:no such thing as resetting it (NP)

True.

Just get used to being hungry for life.

Most people never experience real hunger. Real hunger starts days after you last meal. Perhaps even well over a week or two.
What most people refer to as hunger is just mental cravings. Those can be controlled or "reset" if one wants to call it that.

BS.

See, your privilege is showing. Go 2-3 weeks without food and report back your experience.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing, which is why the vast majority who lose weight, and doesn't matter if it's WW, Jenny Craig, Noom, Optifast or the new injectable meds, gain the weight back

Are you’d saying there’s no such thing as a set point weight or no such thing as resetting it?

I was told in a college class by a anesthesiology professor that it took 6 months to reset a set point.

But later told there's no such thing as resetting it because fat cells never die, they just shrink unless surgically removed.

So does that mean liposuction would make you feel less hungry??

In theory, yes. In practice, no -- because it wouldn't remove enough cells to affect this.

So you're saying fat cells are what make you hungry??

Isn't that what fairly recent science shows? Recent as in several years, but still not that old.

IDK. I haven't heard this theory before. It sounds suspect. Perhaps the amount of fat cells present play a role; but I'm not buying the assertion that they themselves cause hunger.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/22446-leptin

Leptin’s main function is to help your body maintain its weight. Leptin regulates the long-term balance between your body’s food intake and energy use. Leptin helps prevent hunger. It manages your energy balance so your body doesn’t trigger a hunger response when it doesn’t need energy (calories).

Leptin mainly acts on your hypothalamus (a part of your brain) to regulate hunger and energy balance. But you have leptin receptors in other areas of your body.

This hormone doesn’t affect your hunger levels and food intake from meal to meal. Instead, it acts to alter food intake and control energy usage over a long time to help maintain your weight.

Leptin has a more profound effect when you lose weight. As your body fat decreases, your leptin levels decrease. This signals your body to think that it’s starving. So, you may feel intense hunger and cravings, which can lead to overeating. This can make it difficult to continue losing weight.

Your white adipose tissue (body fat) makes and releases leptin. White adipose tissue is the main type of fat in your body.

Because leptin comes from fat cells, the amount of leptin in your blood is directly related to the amount of adipose tissue in your body. In other words, the less body fat, the less leptin you have. The more body fat, the more leptin you have.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing, which is why the vast majority who lose weight, and doesn't matter if it's WW, Jenny Craig, Noom, Optifast or the new injectable meds, gain the weight back

Are you’d saying there’s no such thing as a set point weight or no such thing as resetting it?

I was told in a college class by a anesthesiology professor that it took 6 months to reset a set point.

But later told there's no such thing as resetting it because fat cells never die, they just shrink unless surgically removed.

So does that mean liposuction would make you feel less hungry??

In theory, yes. In practice, no -- because it wouldn't remove enough cells to affect this.

So you're saying fat cells are what make you hungry??

Isn't that what fairly recent science shows? Recent as in several years, but still not that old.

IDK. I haven't heard this theory before. It sounds suspect. Perhaps the amount of fat cells present play a role; but I'm not buying the assertion that they themselves cause hunger.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing, which is why the vast majority who lose weight, and doesn't matter if it's WW, Jenny Craig, Noom, Optifast or the new injectable meds, gain the weight back

Are you’d saying there’s no such thing as a set point weight or no such thing as resetting it?

I was told in a college class by a anesthesiology professor that it took 6 months to reset a set point.

But later told there's no such thing as resetting it because fat cells never die, they just shrink unless surgically removed.

So does that mean liposuction would make you feel less hungry??

In theory, yes. In practice, no -- because it wouldn't remove enough cells to affect this.

So you're saying fat cells are what make you hungry??

Isn't that what fairly recent science shows? Recent as in several years, but still not that old.

I don't know the answer for others, but since COVID 5 years ago (and I became a SAHM) I have lost about 10lbs a year but gain about half of that back over Thanksgiving/Christmas. Net -5 over 5 years, I am down a total of 25lbs. It stays off, so I don't know if by eating as I wish for 6 weeks every year helps or not. But I seem to reset at the halfway point each year. Again, not sure if there is a scientific reason, but it is working for me. If it matters, I don't drink alcohol but have a sweet tooth that kicks in over the holidays.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing, which is why the vast majority who lose weight, and doesn't matter if it's WW, Jenny Craig, Noom, Optifast or the new injectable meds, gain the weight back

Are you’d saying there’s no such thing as a set point weight or no such thing as resetting it?

I was told in a college class by a anesthesiology professor that it took 6 months to reset a set point.

But later told there's no such thing as resetting it because fat cells never die, they just shrink unless surgically removed.

So does that mean liposuction would make you feel less hungry??

In theory, yes. In practice, no -- because it wouldn't remove enough cells to affect this.

So you're saying fat cells are what make you hungry??

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Anonymous wrote:no such thing as resetting it (NP)

True.

Just get used to being hungry for life.

I went from 155 to 160 pounds to 115 4 or 5 years ago (no meds). My set weight is now 120. I realize tend to eat more than most people my size and age (over 50) but I have no trouble maintaining this weight with 3 meals, snacks, and dessert daily. I was probably eating over 3000 calories at my high weight and now it's more like 2000. Probably just lucked out with my metabolism but I feel like a glutton sometimes. But I'm happy with my weight and dont see a reason to eat less or go hungry.

I think you can change your body’s set point to an extent via habits. When I was in college I ate very poorly and didn’t exercise, was around 190+ lbs. After college I started exercising and eating healthier and ever since then I have hovered 165-175. It’s not a huge change but it feels like my new set point. I am a 5’11 male for reference.

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Anonymous wrote:no such thing as resetting it (NP)

True.

Just get used to being hungry for life.

Most people never experience real hunger. Real hunger starts days after you last meal. Perhaps even well over a week or two.
What most people refer to as hunger is just mental cravings. Those can be controlled or "reset" if one wants to call it that.

BS.

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Anonymous wrote:no such thing as resetting it (NP)

True.

Just get used to being hungry for life.

Most people never experience real hunger. Real hunger starts days after you last meal. Perhaps even well over a week or two.
What most people refer to as hunger is just mental cravings. Those can be controlled or "reset" if one wants to call it that.

Can you provide a link to a study done about “real hunger”? I will like to learn more about this.