Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh for Pete’s sake. If you don’t want to go, don’t sign your kids up. It’s that simple. You don’t need to lobby for cancellation. This is fomo at its worst. I don’t want to do something but I don’t want my kids to miss something that other kids get to do so I’m going to try and get it cancelled.

Guess what? I don't want to go and I have no problem not signing up my kids, but I'm a stroke and turn judge and if I don't go there isn't a meet

S/T judge, you should absolutely skip the meet if your kids aren’t going because of the heat and you don’t want to be on deck in a heat index of 115. All these a-holes commenting here should get certified so meets can go on for them even in heat that is unhealthy to be out in. Signed, a Team Rep.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh for Pete’s sake. If you don’t want to go, don’t sign your kids up. It’s that simple. You don’t need to lobby for cancellation. This is fomo at its worst. I don’t want to do something but I don’t want my kids to miss something that other kids get to do so I’m going to try and get it cancelled.

Guess what? I don't want to go and I have no problem not signing up my kids, but I'm a stroke and turn judge and if I don't go there isn't a meet

There’s nothing about a B meet that says you need to have x number S&Ts. We’ve run B meets where it’s just 2 plus ref. It’s not ideal but b meets aren’t nvsl-sanctioned so in that regard if you have to wing it, then wing it.

Our B meet league does indeed have rules that specify the need for a full S&T contingent. It's not fair if some kid gets put in an A meet with an illegal but faster breaststroke. (Or any stroke-- but that's the one where a scissor kick gets you across faster but not legally)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh for Pete’s sake. If you don’t want to go, don’t sign your kids up. It’s that simple. You don’t need to lobby for cancellation. This is fomo at its worst. I don’t want to do something but I don’t want my kids to miss something that other kids get to do so I’m going to try and get it cancelled.

Guess what? I don't want to go and I have no problem not signing up my kids, but I'm a stroke and turn judge and if I don't go there isn't a meet

There’s nothing about a B meet that says you need to have x number S&Ts. We’ve run B meets where it’s just 2 plus ref. It’s not ideal but b meets aren’t nvsl-sanctioned so in that regard if you have to wing it, then wing it.

S&T here: This doesn’t help you for tomorrow, but your team leaders are putting you in a really crummy situation. No way you should have to work every A and B meet. Our team has “only” 5 (I think) this year, and we know it’s not enough. If you S&T every A meet that should be enough.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh for Pete’s sake. If you don’t want to go, don’t sign your kids up. It’s that simple. You don’t need to lobby for cancellation. This is fomo at its worst. I don’t want to do something but I don’t want my kids to miss something that other kids get to do so I’m going to try and get it cancelled.

Guess what? I don't want to go and I have no problem not signing up my kids, but I'm a stroke and turn judge and if I don't go there isn't a meet

There’s nothing about a B meet that says you need to have x number S&Ts. We’ve run B meets where it’s just 2 plus ref. It’s not ideal but b meets aren’t nvsl-sanctioned so in that regard if you have to wing it, then wing it.

Anonymous wrote:Oh for Pete’s sake. If you don’t want to go, don’t sign your kids up. It’s that simple. You don’t need to lobby for cancellation. This is fomo at its worst. I don’t want to do something but I don’t want my kids to miss something that other kids get to do so I’m going to try and get it cancelled.

Guess what? I don't want to go and I have no problem not signing up my kids, but I'm a stroke and turn judge and if I don't go there isn't a meet

Unlikely to be a problem for the kids since they get to get in the pool. Can also easily cold shower or spray hose off if needed. Another option would be to let kids sit in the baby pool if your pool has one in waves (or in the dive well if not used). Really only bad for adults and they can deal/rotate as needed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one making the decisions had asked my opinion, but if they did I'd say:

- cancel the developmental 10m swims
- limit from 2 strokes+IM to two total.

Get everyone out of the heat as quickly as possible

Wouldn’t it make more sense to delay the start by an hour and skip one of the strokes + IM? Then it would be shorter and a little cooler at start time.

Maybe, but skipping an entire stroke is bound to make someone mad. I can think of situations on our team of different people wanting to each swimm a different stroke. Everyone doing fewer events affects everyone equally.

Do you not rotate the stroke order at B meets? That way if a delay or early end affects more than one B meet, it’s not the same stroke cancelled every time. Someone will be mad no matter what you do. Sometimes common sense must prevail in situations like dangerous whether (e.g. storms, bad air quality, heat warning) and people can deal. It’s just summer swim.

Welcome to every single All Star Relays and All Stars. Same conversation resurrected every year. No canceling.

This is not the first summer it has been this temp for a B meet. It is pretty miserable for me to be a fan who can't get in the pool, but my kids seem ok with it. If you have heat concerns with respect to your kids, you are free to skip it.

Anonymous wrote:Who participates in developmental 10m swim: pre-team? (I've never seen it in MCSL, only kickboard, and even that not every B meet.) Sounds like a nice idea: how does it start and finish?

Yes, for pre-team. At our pool, it's across the dive well, and one watch per kid. I've seen other pools put Jr coaches at the 10 m disk in the lanes and have the kids dive in and swim to them. Coach hand raise stops the watch. That way reduces the chaos of kids swimming over each other, but takes a lot longer.

Who participates in developmental 10m swim: pre-team? (I've never seen it in MCSL, only kickboard, and even that not every B meet.) Sounds like a nice idea: how does it start and finish?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one making the decisions had asked my opinion, but if they did I'd say:

- cancel the developmental 10m swims
- limit from 2 strokes+IM to two total.

Get everyone out of the heat as quickly as possible

Wouldn’t it make more sense to delay the start by an hour and skip one of the strokes + IM? Then it would be shorter and a little cooler at start time.

Maybe, but skipping an entire stroke is bound to make someone mad. I can think of situations on our team of different people wanting to each swimm a different stroke. Everyone doing fewer events affects everyone equally.

Oh for Pete’s sake. If you don’t want to go, don’t sign your kids up. It’s that simple. You don’t need to lobby for cancellation. This is fomo at its worst. I don’t want to do something but I don’t want my kids to miss something that other kids get to do so I’m going to try and get it cancelled.

Anonymous wrote:No one making the decisions had asked my opinion, but if they did I'd say:

- cancel the developmental 10m swims
- limit from 2 strokes+IM to two total.

Get everyone out of the heat as quickly as possible

Wouldn’t it make more sense to delay the start by an hour and skip one of the strokes + IM? Then it would be shorter and a little cooler at start time.

No one making the decisions had asked my opinion, but if they did I'd say:

- cancel the developmental 10m swims
- limit from 2 strokes+IM to two total.

Get everyone out of the heat as quickly as possible