Being a citizen doesn’t matter. They will disappear anyone.

Does anyone leave home without identification?

I always take ID.

If you routinely leave home without ID, why?

If you get in an accident, have a medical emergency, or are a victim of a crime, why do you not want to have your ID with you?

If you don’t, why not? You want to be unable to be identified and unable to have authorities contact your loved ones?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think any of it will help. Plainclothes, masked ICE agents (and vigilantes impersonating them) aren’t asking questions or accepting documents. They’re just abducting people off the streets. I was born in America but I am not white and I am scared.

+1 Multiple incidents of citizens being detained even when they have documents because ICE assumes they are fake.

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Anonymous wrote:Talking with some friends (who are all minorities) and they said they have taken to carrying their passport cards and other identification with them at all times. I usually carry my drivers license but that doesn’t show place of birth. Should I carry my passport just in case?

I am nervous because I was not born here but am a naturalized citizen. I am out with my kids alone a lot. I sincerely cannot imagine what would happen if ICE took me and just left my young kids to fend for themselves.

It will not do any good. They are deliberately not identifying people when they pick them up. Quite a few US citizens have been arrested and have not been heard from. They just do not care about the laws and right or wrong.

Tell us about just one.

Anonymous wrote:Talking with some friends (who are all minorities) and they said they have taken to carrying their passport cards and other identification with them at all times. I usually carry my drivers license but that doesn’t show place of birth. Should I carry my passport just in case?

I am nervous because I was not born here but am a naturalized citizen. I am out with my kids alone a lot. I sincerely cannot imagine what would happen if ICE took me and just left my young kids to fend for themselves.

It will not do any good. They are deliberately not identifying people when they pick them up. Quite a few US citizens have been arrested and have not been heard from. They just do not care about the laws and right or wrong.

The experience of workers at an OK meatpacking company that was recently raided suggests that migrants should carry their work permits on them at all times. The owner dutifully uses e-verify and had passed an immigration inspection of workers' documents in February.

"Mejía said federal agents separated the workers into two groups in the plant’s cafeteria: those with documents proving their legal status and those without.

Agents fingerprinted all of the workers, most of whom hail from Guatemala or the Mexican state of Guerrero, she said, then led those without documents into a white bus with their hands zip tied."

https://flatwaterfreepress.org/ice-raids-hit-omaha-meatpacking-plants/

Anonymous wrote:No, resist! That's not the law. The government has the burden of proof.

You’re not a POC, are you?

Anonymous wrote:No.

Advance compliance moves us more quickly along the path to tyranny.

Exactly, do not internalize and normalize the authoritarian playbook.

Anonymous wrote:No.

Advance compliance moves us more quickly along the path to tyranny.

Interesting, I never thought of it this way. Makes sense.

Anonymous wrote:I always carry ID. Female WASP. Exception would be walking in the neighborhood.

And, when I lived and worked overseas, I always carried my passport.

WASP as in a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, correct? As in...not a minority? Thanks for adding value to this thread for all of the other WASPs in this thread that are clearly concerned about being racially profiled.

Foreigner here.

I carry my work permit with me at all times, something I never did before. Still leave my passport at home, because it's not a card-sized document and I don't want it stolen. I think authorities are most interested in my work permit issued by US Citizenship and Immigration Services - they don't care which country I'm from, they only care that I'm legal to work here.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. A passport card and drivers license, at all times. If detained you can prove citizenship much faster if it’s on your person.

So many US citizens don't have passports. They are, by and large, the poorer citizens. They should not be punished for not having papers

Agreed, but I think we've gotten to the point where, if they are US citizens but "look foreign," they will need to have one and carry it on their person at all times. A passport card costs $65 and a passport book costs $130. Given that we don't have national ID cards like other countries, that's the next best thing.

I guess you are not aware that white europeans are also being detained and handcuffed and sent to detention centers. The story about two german young women who were detained and deported in Hawaii even though they had valid visas.

Narrator: if minorities needs to carry "papers" then we ALL need to carry papers.

We are now in Nazi Germany of this is where we are.

If you don't have your "papers" then off to the gulag for you.

No.

Advance compliance moves us more quickly along the path to tyranny.

Anonymous wrote:No, resist! That's not the law. The government has the burden of proof.

In theory this is great. However, it doesn't help someone when they are sitting in a cell afraid of being deported.