Anonymous
07/17/2025 19:12
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a coach up here in NJ - and amazed the miles kids are running in hs to chase that golden time during their junior year track - 90+ miles a week at some of the schools up here in NJ, and I have that on very credible authority. That’s why u see many kids with peak time of hs career occurring during junior year indoor track - and little incremental improvement thru graduation.
I will say for x country state placing matters - the old adage is “place for x country / time for track”. Although the Holmdel course in NJ does mean something with a good time
OP asked about track, not XC.
some states have faster runners and faster divisions and faster girls vs boys- time is what matters. Conditions are definitely not an asterik on the time.
I don’t think you understand the sport. I used to run against Villanova’s head coach, one of the best in the business. Marcus has related how difficult recruiting can be, especially on a limited budget, and track times alone cannot be dispositive. A real factor in recruiting is cross country performance. Why would you dismiss it based on a comment about the OP’s question? You likely have no idea of how top level D1 athletics works. I didn’t like cross country but ended up one year as 4th in a power 4 conference. My track times were much faster than mentioned here, but I know for a fact that my cross country performances were a real factor in my recruiting. It matters. Given it is DCUM, you likely will disagree but you haven’t walked the walk and haven’t talked to D1 coaches.
cool story bro - you sound like everyone you are disparaging
Cool input unathletic underachieving wimp. The great thing about my experience was succeeding academically at very top schools. Crushing minds like yours was a motivation. Disparage as you will but I come from poverty and indeed have no hesitation to call you out.
Aren't you the D3 Lynchburg poster?
Anonymous
07/17/2025 19:06
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a coach up here in NJ - and amazed the miles kids are running in hs to chase that golden time during their junior year track - 90+ miles a week at some of the schools up here in NJ, and I have that on very credible authority. That’s why u see many kids with peak time of hs career occurring during junior year indoor track - and little incremental improvement thru graduation.
I will say for x country state placing matters - the old adage is “place for x country / time for track”. Although the Holmdel course in NJ does mean something with a good time
OP asked about track, not XC.
some states have faster runners and faster divisions and faster girls vs boys- time is what matters. Conditions are definitely not an asterik on the time.
I don’t think you understand the sport. I used to run against Villanova’s head coach, one of the best in the business. Marcus has related how difficult recruiting can be, especially on a limited budget, and track times alone cannot be dispositive. A real factor in recruiting is cross country performance. Why would you dismiss it based on a comment about the OP’s question? You likely have no idea of how top level D1 athletics works. I didn’t like cross country but ended up one year as 4th in a power 4 conference. My track times were much faster than mentioned here, but I know for a fact that my cross country performances were a real factor in my recruiting. It matters. Given it is DCUM, you likely will disagree but you haven’t walked the walk and haven’t talked to D1 coaches.
cool story bro - you sound like everyone you are disparaging
Cool input unathletic underachieving wimp. The great thing about my experience was succeeding academically at very top schools. Crushing minds like yours was a motivation. Disparage as you will but I come from poverty and indeed have no hesitation to call you out.
Anonymous
07/15/2025 21:29
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Men
• 800m: 1:52–1:55
• Mile: 4:12–4:20
• 3200m: 9:00–9:20
• 5K: 14:30–15:20
Women
• 800m: 2:10–2:15
• Mile: 4:50–5:10
• 3200m: 10:20–10:50
• 5K: 17:00–18:00
• 800m: 1:52–1:55
• Mile: 4:12–4:20
• 3200m: 9:00–9:20
• 5K: 14:30–15:20
Women
• 800m: 2:10–2:15
• Mile: 4:50–5:10
• 3200m: 10:20–10:50
• 5K: 17:00–18:00
Anonymous
07/15/2025 16:44
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a coach up here in NJ - and amazed the miles kids are running in hs to chase that golden time during their junior year track - 90+ miles a week at some of the schools up here in NJ, and I have that on very credible authority. That’s why u see many kids with peak time of hs career occurring during junior year indoor track - and little incremental improvement thru graduation.
I will say for x country state placing matters - the old adage is “place for x country / time for track”. Although the Holmdel course in NJ does mean something with a good time
OP asked about track, not XC.
some states have faster runners and faster divisions and faster girls vs boys- time is what matters. Conditions are definitely not an asterik on the time.
I don’t think you understand the sport. I used to run against Villanova’s head coach, one of the best in the business. Marcus has related how difficult recruiting can be, especially on a limited budget, and track times alone cannot be dispositive. A real factor in recruiting is cross country performance. Why would you dismiss it based on a comment about the OP’s question? You likely have no idea of how top level D1 athletics works. I didn’t like cross country but ended up one year as 4th in a power 4 conference. My track times were much faster than mentioned here, but I know for a fact that my cross country performances were a real factor in my recruiting. It matters. Given it is DCUM, you likely will disagree but you haven’t walked the walk and haven’t talked to D1 coaches.
I am actually very familiar with recruiting and colleges and my experience is within the last three years- unlike yours from the 70s. But okay- keep replying with your random thoughts.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 14:33
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, the college coaches want to see the dedication and devotion to the sport. Hard to be a spring only track recruit. Everything is year round, 100% devotion, working out, running as much as possible.
You’ll still see football/track stars but that’s about it. Everyone else is grinding it out year round in middle/long distance.
not true but ok. I have a three sport athlete who is being recruited for only participating in spring track
A sprinter? I don’t think that’s unusual. I think it’s more unusual for distance runners. Although I’ve seen a couple really fast distance runners who played soccer through freshman and sophomore year. They switched to XC as juniors though.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 14:01
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, the college coaches want to see the dedication and devotion to the sport. Hard to be a spring only track recruit. Everything is year round, 100% devotion, working out, running as much as possible.
You’ll still see football/track stars but that’s about it. Everyone else is grinding it out year round in middle/long distance.
not true but ok. I have a three sport athlete who is being recruited for only participating in spring track
Anonymous
07/14/2025 12:57
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a coach up here in NJ - and amazed the miles kids are running in hs to chase that golden time during their junior year track - 90+ miles a week at some of the schools up here in NJ, and I have that on very credible authority. That’s why u see many kids with peak time of hs career occurring during junior year indoor track - and little incremental improvement thru graduation.
I will say for x country state placing matters - the old adage is “place for x country / time for track”. Although the Holmdel course in NJ does mean something with a good time
90+ miles is insane. Boys? What about the girls?
90 would be very unlikely, and inadvisable for boys and girls.
I suspect kids who are hitting this mileage are doing it against the advice of their coaches. If they are running this much, they're on a quick path to burnout and injuries.
Another very talented female runner died by suicide last week ... some of these kids are skating on thin ice.
OP, yes, use Runcruit as a guide, but also have your kid write to the coaches. If they're interested at all, they'll respond and start a conversation.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 09:30
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Unfortunately, the college coaches want to see the dedication and devotion to the sport. Hard to be a spring only track recruit. Everything is year round, 100% devotion, working out, running as much as possible.
You’ll still see football/track stars but that’s about it. Everyone else is grinding it out year round in middle/long distance.
You’ll still see football/track stars but that’s about it. Everyone else is grinding it out year round in middle/long distance.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 07:50
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
As a family that is in the middle of recruiting- it is all about the times for track. XC has a little more wiggle room because courses are different but times for girls is still around 18 minutes or lower (no matter the course).
For distance and some middle distance it is expected that you do both XC and track.
And the Ivies are just as competitive as other D1 schools and expect the academics too. My advice is to fill out the questionnaires and reach out to the coaches at any school that your kid has interest in. The biggest thing we have learned is that it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense
schools that I thought should be on my kids list- never heard anything from and it looks like she is going to go to a school that I thought would be a reach.
For distance and some middle distance it is expected that you do both XC and track.
And the Ivies are just as competitive as other D1 schools and expect the academics too. My advice is to fill out the questionnaires and reach out to the coaches at any school that your kid has interest in. The biggest thing we have learned is that it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense
schools that I thought should be on my kids list- never heard anything from and it looks like she is going to go to a school that I thought would be a reach.
Anonymous
07/11/2025 18:01
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a coach up here in NJ - and amazed the miles kids are running in hs to chase that golden time during their junior year track - 90+ miles a week at some of the schools up here in NJ, and I have that on very credible authority. That’s why u see many kids with peak time of hs career occurring during junior year indoor track - and little incremental improvement thru graduation.
I will say for x country state placing matters - the old adage is “place for x country / time for track”. Although the Holmdel course in NJ does mean something with a good time
OP asked about track, not XC.
some states have faster runners and faster divisions and faster girls vs boys- time is what matters. Conditions are definitely not an asterik on the time.
I don’t think you understand the sport. I used to run against Villanova’s head coach, one of the best in the business. Marcus has related how difficult recruiting can be, especially on a limited budget, and track times alone cannot be dispositive. A real factor in recruiting is cross country performance. Why would you dismiss it based on a comment about the OP’s question? You likely have no idea of how top level D1 athletics works. I didn’t like cross country but ended up one year as 4th in a power 4 conference. My track times were much faster than mentioned here, but I know for a fact that my cross country performances were a real factor in my recruiting. It matters. Given it is DCUM, you likely will disagree but you haven’t walked the walk and haven’t talked to D1 coaches.
cool story bro - you sound like everyone you are disparaging
Anonymous
07/11/2025 17:58
Subject: track times to be recruited by Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a coach up here in NJ - and amazed the miles kids are running in hs to chase that golden time during their junior year track - 90+ miles a week at some of the schools up here in NJ, and I have that on very credible authority. That’s why u see many kids with peak time of hs career occurring during junior year indoor track - and little incremental improvement thru graduation.
I will say for x country state placing matters - the old adage is “place for x country / time for track”. Although the Holmdel course in NJ does mean something with a good time
OP asked about track, not XC.
some states have faster runners and faster divisions and faster girls vs boys- time is what matters. Conditions are definitely not an asterik on the time.
I don’t think you understand the sport. I used to run against Villanova’s head coach, one of the best in the business. Marcus has related how difficult recruiting can be, especially on a limited budget, and track times alone cannot be dispositive. A real factor in recruiting is cross country performance. Why would you dismiss it based on a comment about the OP’s question? You likely have no idea of how top level D1 athletics works. I didn’t like cross country but ended up one year as 4th in a power 4 conference. My track times were much faster than mentioned here, but I know for a fact that my cross country performances were a real factor in my recruiting. It matters. Given it is DCUM, you likely will disagree but you haven’t walked the walk and haven’t talked to D1 coaches.