Anonymous wrote:Imagine being made that a religion you don't subscribe to likewise doesn't subscribe to your beliefs

Imagine being so dumb that you can’t even accurately articulate the position that is being presented directly to you in writing. Nobody cares what they do with their own lives. We have a problem with the church wanting to control non church members.

It’s time to remove tax exemptions from these political organizations that call themselves “churches.”

Anonymous wrote:The Christian right want much worse. They want to end birth control. They want women out of the workplace (white women, that is), home having babies.

Bingo. They’re basically following in the footsteps of the Third Reich. The Christian right wants to elevate the pure, intact white nuclear family where father works and mother toils away filling the world with pure white babies while keeping house. Non-whites can keep their mouths shut or get to work ensuring the success of the pure white American nuclear family.

Anonymous wrote:I have a sneaking suspicion that most christians in this country are a bunch of sore and lonely closested gays that maintain a public front of virulent homophobia.

The cure would be for them to *get some*.

I have a sneaking suspicion that most christians in this country are a bunch of sore and lonely closested gays that maintain a public front of virulent homophobia.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?

Amen

+1 amen!

(The problem is we now have an aging nutcase in the White House who thinks he is on a mission from God, and many of his supporters wholeheartedly agree.)

Imagine being made that a religion you don't subscribe to likewise doesn't subscribe to your beliefs

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Anonymous wrote:The feds should stop all marriages. There should only be civil unions that exist for governmental and financial and legal matters. If people want to get married in a church they can.

This is why people see religion as a great divider. Sad.

The Christian church doesn't own marriage.

Marriage is an institution created by God.

Ok, should atheists not be allowed to marry then? Agnostics?

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Anonymous wrote:The feds should stop all marriages. There should only be civil unions that exist for governmental and financial and legal matters. If people want to get married in a church they can.

This is why people see religion as a great divider. Sad.

The Christian church doesn't own marriage.

Marriage is an institution created by God.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?

Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here

You are wrong and ignorant, PP. Easily fact checked.

Several Christian denominations support gay marriage. These include:

- Episcopal Church (United States): Officially supports same-sex marriage, allowing clergy to perform and bless these unions since 2015.
- Presbyterian Church (USA): Permits same-sex marriages, with clergy able to officiate since 2014, following a change in its constitution.
- Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA): Supports same-sex marriage, allowing pastors to officiate since 2009, with formal rites adopted later.
- United Church of Christ (UCC): Endorsed same-sex marriage in 2005, encouraging clergy to officiate and advocate for legal recognition.
- Metropolitan Community Church (MCC): Founded with a focus on LGBTQ+ inclusion, it has performed same-sex marriages since its inception in 1968.
- Quakers (some branches): Certain Quaker meetings, particularly in liberal regions like the U.S. and U.K., support and celebrate same-sex marriages.
- Unitarian Universalist Association: While not exclusively Christian, many congregations include Christian members and fully support same-sex marriage.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?

Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here

Every mainline Protestant denomination is fine with gay marriage. It’s the Christian nationalist evangelical weirdos who have a problem with it and also want their religious rules to have dominion over our government. They should go be another country.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a black, 40-something year old Christian woman (moderate) and this pisses me off. The government shouldn't legislate morality, and the church shouldn't tell me how to vote. Separation of church and state is critical for a reason.

Let people marry who they want to marry under contractual law so they can have the benefits. Let people love who they want to love and hate who they want to hate.

Leave the judging of the moral acts and "sins" of the world to God, and each person's understanding of God. Leave the governance of our administration's resources in this country and the protection of our civil liberties to government.

Why don't more people object with an argument that this is NOT a separation of church and state?

Look there is no Christian denomination that supports gay marriage, just go be another religion. Same with Islam they don't support it either. What's the shock here

Anonymous wrote:The feds should stop all marriages. There should only be civil unions that exist for governmental and financial and legal matters. If people want to get married in a church they can.

This is why people see religion as a great divider. Sad.

+1

Anonymous wrote:Southern Baptists Endorse Effort to Overturn Same-Sex Marriage
The nation’s largest Protestant denomination was motivated by conservative Christians’ success in reversing Roe v. Wade.

Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to call for the overturning of the Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, with strategists citing the successful effort that overturned the right to legal abortions as a possible blueprint for the new fight.

The denomination has long opposed gay marriage, but Tuesday was the first time its members have voted to work to legally end it. Expanding on conservatives’ success in overturning Roe v. Wade in 2022, the vote signals growing evangelical ambitions to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court ruling that was handed down 10 years ago this month.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/southern-baptist-obergefell-same-sex-marriage.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

What's the surprise no Christian denomination is pro gay marriage, it's in the Bible

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Anonymous wrote:Nutjobs make a wildly unpopular proclamation and label it as prophetic. Nothing new to see here.

Take this seriously. They made the systematic effort to overturn Roe v. Wade and they succeeded. They're using the same playbook to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/southern-baptist-obergefell-same-sex-marriage.html?unlocked_article_code=1.N08.5vda.xtYa2z4eqhGl&smid=url-share

After gay marriage, interracial marriages will be next.