Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
The Capitol Police did an excellent job of protecting the lives and safety of the insurrectionists, which is to be commended.
No one there is as gullible as you, though. The J6ers knew the date and why they were there, to interrupt the vote certification and change it.
Even if what you're saying is right, which its not-- how does this justify the left assaulting LEOs?
1) what the PP said is right
2) the LEO's in this case, ICE, are not acting within their legal parameters. ICE are the ones violating the law here.
So it's justified to assault them? Why not seek redress in the courts like a civilized person?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really all the statements about how attacks on law enforcement will not be tolerated - which of course they should not - make me ill when they are being uttered by the same people who are okay with pardoning the J6 rioters who violently attacked law enforcement protecting the Capitol. WTAF.
the people attacking ICE are not "liberals" - they are legal immigrants and natural Americans who are fearful of an American gestapo.
The people attacking ICE are criminals and terrorists who will face justice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
The Capitol Police did an excellent job of protecting the lives and safety of the insurrectionists, which is to be commended.
No one there is as gullible as you, though. The J6ers knew the date and why they were there, to interrupt the vote certification and change it.
Even if what you're saying is right, which its not-- how does this justify the left assaulting LEOs?
1) what the PP said is right
2) the LEO's in this case, ICE, are not acting within their legal parameters. ICE are the ones violating the law here.
So it's justified to assault them? Why not seek redress in the courts like a civilized person?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really all the statements about how attacks on law enforcement will not be tolerated - which of course they should not - make me ill when they are being uttered by the same people who are okay with pardoning the J6 rioters who violently attacked law enforcement protecting the Capitol. WTAF.
the people attacking ICE are not "liberals" - they are legal immigrants and natural Americans who are fearful of an American gestapo.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
The Capitol Police did an excellent job of protecting the lives and safety of the insurrectionists, which is to be commended.
No one there is as gullible as you, though. The J6ers knew the date and why they were there, to interrupt the vote certification and change it.
Even if what you're saying is right, which its not-- how does this justify the left assaulting LEOs?
1) what the PP said is right
2) the LEO's in this case, ICE, are not acting within their legal parameters. ICE are the ones violating the law here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
Unequivocally disagree. One of the problems in our nation is that we lionize police officers. Assaulting a police officer should VDC
They carry modern, military-grade weapons. They wear modern body armor. They utilize modern vehicles and technology. They enjoy very generous pay and retirement packages, especially through injury retirement.
There are more than enough disincentives to dissuade civilians from trying to harm them. It’s taking it way too far to essentially value the life of a police officer over the lives of those they are supposed to be serving. But that’s exactly what happens …
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
The Capitol Police did an excellent job of protecting the lives and safety of the insurrectionists, which is to be commended.
No one there is as gullible as you, though. The J6ers knew the date and why they were there, to interrupt the vote certification and change it.
Even if what you're saying is right, which its not-- how does this justify the left assaulting LEOs?
Anonymous wrote:Really all the statements about how attacks on law enforcement will not be tolerated - which of course they should not - make me ill when they are being uttered by the same people who are okay with pardoning the J6 rioters who violently attacked law enforcement protecting the Capitol. WTAF.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
?????????????????? You must be kidding.
They assaulted LEOs and were responsible for several deaths. Do you have no respect ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
The Capitol Police did an excellent job of protecting the lives and safety of the insurrectionists, which is to be commended.
No one there is as gullible as you, though. The J6ers knew the date and why they were there, to interrupt the vote certification and change it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
Anonymous wrote:I think the agitators in CA need to be arrested. I also wanted every J6er that attacked law enforcement prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The last thing I wanted was for them to be pardoned.