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Anonymous wrote:Vancouver in summer still chilly. Norway. Queensland Australia is warm in their winter .

Not microclimates. You are just describing places closer or further from the equator being hotter or colder.

Microclimates are where places within a few miles of each other have big swings in temperatures/precipitation, etc. It's usually because of the way ocean/sea air comes in off of/over/through mountains/hills, and how the cooler more humid air rapidly warms up as it moves inland.

https://researchdata.edu.au/far-north-queensland-microclimate-data/1915905#:~:text=Brief%20description-,The%20far%20north%20Queensland%20microclimate%20(FNQ%2Dmicroclim)%20is%20an,Bay%3B%20Rex%20Range%3B%20Mt.

Anonymous wrote:My daughter lives in SF. My family just visited, and we go a few times a year. I have never worn a puffy coat in SF. Just wear layers and bring a scarf and gloves. And, I always bring a bathing suit. I love frigid swimming. Enjoy! They have much better restaurants than the DMV at all price points.

Yes, the whole point of this thread is depending where in SF you are, you can be comfortable in a puffy or a t-shirt on the same day. My entire wardrobe changed when I moved from the outer Avenues to east of Divisadero. Everyone saying "when I was in SF..." without defining where in the city you were are providing completely unhelpful comments.

Anonymous wrote:Vancouver in summer still chilly. Norway. Queensland Australia is warm in their winter .

Not microclimates. You are just describing places closer or further from the equator being hotter or colder.

Microclimates are where places within a few miles of each other have big swings in temperatures/precipitation, etc. It's usually because of the way ocean/sea air comes in off of/over/through mountains/hills, and how the cooler more humid air rapidly warms up as it moves inland.

My daughter lives in SF. My family just visited, and we go a few times a year. I have never worn a puffy coat in SF. Just wear layers and bring a scarf and gloves. And, I always bring a bathing suit. I love frigid swimming. Enjoy! They have much better restaurants than the DMV at all price points.

Vancouver in summer still chilly. Norway. Queensland Australia is warm in their winter .

I remember when I lived in Colorado I was very unprepared for a hike. It started off as in the 60s and sunny at the bottom and when we got to the top of the 14,000 foot peak it was snowing and very cold, I did not dress properly for that.

I lived in San Francisco for about three years (this was two decades ago), and I vividly remember wearing a puffer jacket and beanie to watch Fourth of July fireworks outside. Didn’t Mark Twain say that the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco??
Now I travel to San Diego a few times a year to visit family, and no matter what time of year, I always need some sort of fleece or jacket. Even if it’s warm during the day, once the sun sets, it gets pretty chilly!

A lot of people on this thread have never spent time in the fog and it shows.

Anonymous wrote:As someone who lived in the Bay area, puffy jackets? Just wear a hoodie.

I have literally spent 4th of July and Memorial Day in a puffy and beanie in GGP for bbqs. F right off with that “Bay Area” as if some parts of the city aren’t literally 30 degrees colder than others at certain times of the year.

The most spectacular micro climate I experienced was when I visited the Big Island in Hawaii and went up to see the telescopes at the top of Mauna Kea (a family member works on them) and then went snorkeling in the same day.

As someone who lived in the Bay area, puffy jackets? Just wear a hoodie.