Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 13:05     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What else should they be doing?.


WORK. get a babysitting job .


They literally have another 50 years to work after they graduate..I think it will be okay.

dp.. sure, but I'm not giving them money to go out with friends when they could be working a PT summer job to pay for that.

Both my kids had/have jobs at 16.

It gives them a sense of responsibility and independence.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 12:56     Subject: Re:How are some parents okay with this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My teens need to have jobs or be otherwise occupied in some kind of constructive manner. If their job allows them to sleep until 1pm, great for them.


Why?


Because I believe there is value in teenagers having a job. Mine needs a job to earn spending money. And yes some teens go to some sleepaway camps and are highly committed to pursuing interests along with having a job.

Not a fan of teens who never work. If your kid has a summer free, get a job is my opinion. YMMV.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 12:49     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If my teen were staying up on her phone to 1am and sleeping to noon, while I was getting up early to walk the dog, get the 6 yo on the summer school bus, get the 11 year old to camp, empty the dishwasher, and still get to work at 8am, that would not fly. If my teen were working late, that would be a different story. But I do expect her to get up at 7 to help me with the 7-8 out-the-door rush. She can then go back to bed for a few hours, though.


Your teen has to get up to help you with your morning rush?

Some of these responses. PP with the parent who wouldn't her lay down on the couch. Damn.


Yeah I feel bad for that teen too. Adult, be a parent. This isn't on the teen.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 12:48     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
Anonymous wrote:If my teen were staying up on her phone to 1am and sleeping to noon, while I was getting up early to walk the dog, get the 6 yo on the summer school bus, get the 11 year old to camp, empty the dishwasher, and still get to work at 8am, that would not fly. If my teen were working late, that would be a different story. But I do expect her to get up at 7 to help me with the 7-8 out-the-door rush. She can then go back to bed for a few hours, though.


Your teen has to get up to help you with your morning rush?

Some of these responses. PP with the parent who wouldn't her lay down on the couch. Damn.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 12:45     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
If my teen were staying up on her phone to 1am and sleeping to noon, while I was getting up early to walk the dog, get the 6 yo on the summer school bus, get the 11 year old to camp, empty the dishwasher, and still get to work at 8am, that would not fly. If my teen were working late, that would be a different story. But I do expect her to get up at 7 to help me with the 7-8 out-the-door rush. She can then go back to bed for a few hours, though.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 12:43     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
I’d never put with it.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 12:42     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
Anonymous wrote:I wish my teen could get more sleep. Because we are churchgoers, she really only gets to sleep in on Saturdays (and not even all of those). I am very hopeful she can sleep until noon on some of the days she has off this summer. I know her body needs more rest.

I also think lack of sleep contributes a lot to the broader mental health issues we see. I think our society as a whole needs to focus on more rest.


When I was growing up my parents were strict Sabbitarians. Sunday was a day of rest. After church the whole family usually ended up napping. I no longer follow that particular doctrine, but sometimes I kind of miss it as a reason for a 3 hour nap.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 12:39     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My parents were lucky if I got out of bed by 1pm over the summer, and I'm a well adjusted, productive member of society. I don't think it matters that much.


Same. I get up at 5:30am now.

My parents were extreme jerks about what time I woke up as a teen and in college (when i was home during summer and breaks). I made straight A's, went to a great school, had great internships and was a good daughter. Why the heck were they hassling me for not waking up by 9am on my days off?? My mom had a bugle she'd play. I'm still angry about this.

She told me I'd get it when I had my own kids, but they're in middle school now and all wake up at the crack of dawn still. I wish they'd sleep in.


Are you my long-lost sibling?! My mom never blew a bugle, but I wasn’t allowed to sleep past nine either. I also could not lay down on the couch. I had to be sitting up. Even as adult, I feel guilty sometimes for sleeping late or having downtime. If teens don’t have anywhere they need to be, let them sleep! They need it.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 12:38     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
Anonymous wrote:I wish my teen could get more sleep. Because we are churchgoers, she really only gets to sleep in on Saturdays (and not even all of those). I am very hopeful she can sleep until noon on some of the days she has off this summer. I know her body needs more rest.

I also think lack of sleep contributes a lot to the broader mental health issues we see. I think our society as a whole needs to focus on more rest.


So let her stay home from church. I can't imagine putting church above my teen's health (mental and physical).
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 12:36     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
I wish my teen could get more sleep. Because we are churchgoers, she really only gets to sleep in on Saturdays (and not even all of those). I am very hopeful she can sleep until noon on some of the days she has off this summer. I know her body needs more rest.

I also think lack of sleep contributes a lot to the broader mental health issues we see. I think our society as a whole needs to focus on more rest.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 11:55     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t care. If they need to be up to do something, then they get up to do it. If they don’t, they sleep in. Just don’t care.

Same.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 11:55     Subject: Re:How are some parents okay with this?
My teens keep their own sleep schedule. When they need to be up for work, school, an activity, or any other obligation, then they get up. If they have nothing on the schedule on a particular day and want to sleep until afternoon, I don't care.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 11:50     Subject: Re:How are some parents okay with this?
Anonymous wrote:My teens need to have jobs or be otherwise occupied in some kind of constructive manner. If their job allows them to sleep until 1pm, great for them.


Why?
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 11:12     Subject: How are some parents okay with this?
I don’t care. If they need to be up to do something, then they get up to do it. If they don’t, they sleep in. Just don’t care.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2025 11:12     Subject: Re:How are some parents okay with this?
This is a stupid fight to have with your kids. We know that adolescence requires more sleep. We know that a good relationship with your child is more beneficial to them (even if you personally love the drama and control) than some puritanical work ethic BS. My mom was like OP. Always trying to control us, impose her idea of "right" even when there was no objective benefit to it. We are not close now.

Let the kids sleep. Hold them to high standards when they're awake. Why is this hard?