Anonymous
Post 05/30/2025 05:00     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

I sort of hope so, I want people to feel the pain of their vote.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2025 03:03     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:DCUM is the best. The mothers on it can somehow manage to make absolutely everything in the world be about them.


I’m OP. I have strong opinions about this issue but this forum isn’t the place to share them. It’s about college issues and not politics.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 23:48     Subject: Re:Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:My rising college sophomore will be in Germany internship/study abroad this Fall. Don’t foresee any issues.


Probably depends on what happens to German student visas to the US. The EU can’t let Trump stomp all over their citizens and not retaliate in kind. You know this.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 23:42     Subject: Re:Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

My rising college sophomore will be in Germany internship/study abroad this Fall. Don’t foresee any issues.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 23:08     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You guys are just plain cruel. Millions of American students won't be able to study in China. Just wrong.


Actually, my DH minored in Chinese and studied in China in the 1990s. I have a Russian majors who has had to try to study in ethnic Russian enclaves in Eastern Europe because Russia and the Ukraine are out. It’s been a problem for language acquisition. So do t discount study in China. You can’t defeat China if you don’t have security clearable America citizens who speak Chinese.

And also, ALL student visa processing is currently suspended. Yep— even the place your kid will want to study. Kinda hope it starts up soon or there are going to be some American kids who thought they were headed to McGill or St. Andrews taking a gap year.

Any idea how many American college students now are in China?


11,000 in 2019
800 this year

Why this decrease isn’t a good thing (short answer: know your enemy. And their language and culture)

https://www.voanews.com/a/decline-of-american-students-in-china-could-mean-fewer-experts/7668461.html


Interesting how Americans simply aren’t much interested in Chinese college. Living under the thumb of Communist control isn’t exciting to most Americans.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 22:55     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You guys are just plain cruel. Millions of American students won't be able to study in China. Just wrong.


Actually, my DH minored in Chinese and studied in China in the 1990s. I have a Russian majors who has had to try to study in ethnic Russian enclaves in Eastern Europe because Russia and the Ukraine are out. It’s been a problem for language acquisition. So do t discount study in China. You can’t defeat China if you don’t have security clearable America citizens who speak Chinese.

And also, ALL student visa processing is currently suspended. Yep— even the place your kid will want to study. Kinda hope it starts up soon or there are going to be some American kids who thought they were headed to McGill or St. Andrews taking a gap year.

Any idea how many American college students now are in China?


11,000 in 2019
800 this year

Why this decrease isn’t a good thing (short answer: know your enemy. And their language and culture)

https://www.voanews.com/a/decline-of-american-students-in-china-could-mean-fewer-experts/7668461.html
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 22:51     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You guys are just plain cruel. Millions of American students won't be able to study in China. Just wrong.


Actually, my DH minored in Chinese and studied in China in the 1990s. I have a Russian majors who has had to try to study in ethnic Russian enclaves in Eastern Europe because Russia and the Ukraine are out. It’s been a problem for language acquisition. So do t discount study in China. You can’t defeat China if you don’t have security clearable America citizens who speak Chinese.

And also, ALL student visa processing is currently suspended. Yep— even the place your kid will want to study. Kinda hope it starts up soon or there are going to be some American kids who thought they were headed to McGill or St. Andrews taking a gap year.

Any idea how many American college students now are in China?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 21:50     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many American college kids does China have? Zero?


Quite a few. Maybe not one 4 year degrees. But most universities send kids over for a semester or a year. Both my kids do.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 21:49     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:I think countries like the UK and Ireland won’t stop American students from applying to their courses. Firstly, it’s not really a battle worth fighting given the pretty small numbers involved. Secondly, there are solid reasons for wanting American students – their money, soft power, etc. That hasn’t changed.

On the other hand, it might get a lot harder for American students applying to overseas universities because the competition will be tougher. The really bright international kids who would have applied to the likes of Harvard will probably set their sights on the best universities in other countries.

Study abroad is a different matter. To the extent that it is reciprocal, then I guess it could be impacted.


You think UK citizens would stand for American kids taking seats at top British colleges when they have British kids who got two years through Harvard and were asked to leave. Canada friggin hates us right now. You think if Canadian students are blocked, US citizens get to take up seats at McGill and Toronto? It’s a matter of national pride. Just like pushing back on tariffs was. And American kids aren’t the only ones with money. The Chinese whiz kids we locked out will go take our seats. And soft power? If TACO is hammering tariffs and blocking their students and randomly holding people and searching phones at the border, what good is soft power? Trump doesn’t respect soft power.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 21:44     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:You guys are just plain cruel. Millions of American students won't be able to study in China. Just wrong.


Actually, my DH minored in Chinese and studied in China in the 1990s. I have a Russian majors who has had to try to study in ethnic Russian enclaves in Eastern Europe because Russia and the Ukraine are out. It’s been a problem for language acquisition. So do t discount study in China. You can’t defeat China if you don’t have security clearable America citizens who speak Chinese.

And also, ALL student visa processing is currently suspended. Yep— even the place your kid will want to study. Kinda hope it starts up soon or there are going to be some American kids who thought they were headed to McGill or St. Andrews taking a gap year.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 21:39     Subject: Re:Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Harvard University, a cornerstone of American academia, is increasingly relying on foreign workers through programs like H-1B visas and Optional Practical Training (OPT), often at the expense of American white-collar workers. As American professionals face growing challenges in securing jobs, Harvard’s hiring practices raise serious concerns about economic fairness and ideological influence.

Harvard’s reliance on H-1B (1,200+ hires) and OPT (15,525+ positions) displaces American workers.

Why cant Democrats be the ones working for US workers first? We thank Trump for revoking Harvard’s license and urge extending this to all colleges.

https://white-collar-workers-of-america.org/2025/05/26/harvards-reliance-on-foreign-workers-a-call-for-change-to-protect-american-jobs/
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 21:37     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:DCUM is the best. The mothers on it can somehow manage to make absolutely everything in the world be about them.


Everything is connected
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 21:24     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

Anonymous wrote:How many American college kids does China have? Zero?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 21:11     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

DCUM is the best. The mothers on it can somehow manage to make absolutely everything in the world be about them.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2025 21:03     Subject: Will Restrictions on International Students Result in US Students Being Denied Study Abroad?

How is it reciprocal? Any stats?