Anonymous wrote:
BYD has its own problems:

https://fortune.com/2025/06/08/byd-ev-industr...demand-overcapacity/



Fortune is pushing an agenda. They do not know what they are writing about. Try a one of the industry insider publications if you want to know what is happening in the car industry.

Tesla is done. The American manufacturers(ford, etc) are losing their market share in foreign markets to BYD and others. About half of ford’s sales are over seas and they are falling fast. At current rate ford will have half its current sales because they are losing market share so fast.

Anonymous wrote:BYD has its own problems:

https://fortune.com/2025/06/08/byd-ev-industry-competition-price-cuts-weak-demand-overcapacity/

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BYD is selling at a loss. The only EV making a profit is Tesla. As soon as BYD gets the market and Tesla fails, BYD will jack up the prices. The Chinese government heavily subsidizes BYD.

Tesla has a Shanghai plant that makes model 3 and Y. BYD learned a lot from that plant. Tesla is not behind, but BYD is competing very well.


Just stop. Without 2.76 billion in carbon offsets Tesla is not profitable.

As for BYD
Chinese EV giant BYD's fourth-quarter profit leaps 73%
BEIJING, March 24 (Reuters) - Chinese electric vehicle maker BYD's (002594.SZ), opens new tab net profit leapt 73.1% in the fourth quarter of 2024 to a record 15 billion yuan ($2.1 billion), it said on Monday, reaping the rewards of lower prices and higher sales than rivals.
Fourth-quarter revenue was up 52.7% at 274.9 billion yuan, the company said in a stock market filing.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transp...leaps-73-2025-03-24/


Seems you are wrong on everything. Maybe a job at Fox News is in your future?

The Chinese fund BYD. The Chinese extend unlimited credit to BYD. The Chinese have copied Tesla very well. There is no dishonor in copying in China. The only dishonor is in not doing it well. Will the US extend unlimited credit to Tesla? No, I didn't think so.

Tesla 2026 Model Y has a promotion going on ( fot Tesla lovers). Preice starts from 41,000 and financing is 1.99 APR

Anonymous wrote:

BYD is selling at a loss. The only EV making a profit is Tesla. As soon as BYD gets the market and Tesla fails, BYD will jack up the prices. The Chinese government heavily subsidizes BYD.

Tesla has a Shanghai plant that makes model 3 and Y. BYD learned a lot from that plant. Tesla is not behind, but BYD is competing very well.


Just stop. Without 2.76 billion in carbon offsets Tesla is not profitable.

As for BYD
Chinese EV giant BYD's fourth-quarter profit leaps 73%
BEIJING, March 24 (Reuters) - Chinese electric vehicle maker BYD's (002594.SZ), opens new tab net profit leapt 73.1% in the fourth quarter of 2024 to a record 15 billion yuan ($2.1 billion), it said on Monday, reaping the rewards of lower prices and higher sales than rivals.
Fourth-quarter revenue was up 52.7% at 274.9 billion yuan, the company said in a stock market filing.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transp...leaps-73-2025-03-24/


Seems you are wrong on everything. Maybe a job at Fox News is in your future?

Anonymous wrote:
BYD is selling at a loss. The only EV making a profit is Tesla. As soon as BYD gets the market and Tesla fails, BYD will jack up the prices. The Chinese government heavily subsidizes BYD.

Tesla has a Shanghai plant that makes model 3 and Y. BYD learned a lot from that plant. Tesla is not behind, but BYD is competing very well.

Chinese EV giant BYD's fourth-quarter profit leaps 73%
BEIJING, March 24 (Reuters) - Chinese electric vehicle maker BYD's (002594.SZ), opens new tab net profit leapt 73.1% in the fourth quarter of 2024 to a record 15 billion yuan ($2.1 billion), it said on Monday, reaping the rewards of lower prices and higher sales than rivals.
Fourth-quarter revenue was up 52.7% at 274.9 billion yuan, the company said in a stock market filing.

Anonymous wrote:
I’m considering buying a used Model Y as it’s one of the smallest cars that offer a third row (sold as an option for a Y - not all will have it). Only used ones have them - current Model Ys removed the option for some reason.

We have a 2024 Model 3 already (traded our 2018 Model 3 in for it in July right before Elon went all in on the election) and love it despite the political concerns. Also concerned that if he is successful in ruining Tesla we may end up with an expensive and very heavy lump of metal and glass if they go bankrupt and stop offering warranty and software service.

But in my quick search on Carvana I saw at least one 2023 Model Y for $27k. Thats about half off the new cash price. I don’t know if they would go much lower (very possible in the scenario of a bankruptcy, though I would assume something like another company buying them would occur).



Have you not seen the safety reviews??
I’d never put my family a Tesla

Anonymous wrote:I’m considering buying a used Model Y as it’s one of the smallest cars that offer a third row (sold as an option for a Y - not all will have it). Only used ones have them - current Model Ys removed the option for some reason.

We have a 2024 Model 3 already (traded our 2018 Model 3 in for it in July right before Elon went all in on the election) and love it despite the political concerns. Also concerned that if he is successful in ruining Tesla we may end up with an expensive and very heavy lump of metal and glass if they go bankrupt and stop offering warranty and software service.

But in my quick search on Carvana I saw at least one 2023 Model Y for $27k. Thats about half off the new cash price. I don’t know if they would go much lower (very possible in the scenario of a bankruptcy, though I would assume something like another company buying them would occur).

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The used market has leveled off now that people have moved on from the vandalism. It’s always better to buy used cars. Do your research and be patient.


Teslas are phenomenal vehicles.


For 2015.


+1. So many better EVs out there. Give Tesla the credit where its due, but the only good thing about them anymore is the software.

If you want self driving they are the only game out there. We have a year old Y. The self driving has really improved vastly in the year since we bought it. I would not buy used if you want self driving since the hardware is older and the updates are always coming to the new hardware first. Also the Y has more experience with it as far as miles go. I did not use it a year ago when we bought it, but now I use it every day and it is truly amazing how good it is. Updates are coming quickly now.