Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 19:39     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Anonymous wrote:Many American kids apply to uk/irish/eu schools as safety schools. St. Andrews, trinity, etc. I know 4 kids going this year. For 2 kids, it was their best option- either highest ranked acceptance or just didn't like their other options. For the other 2 kids, the lower cost was the main driver. Its pretty easy for public school kids as long as they have ap courses - and the schools i mentioned don't require the ap tests. They also don't even need act or sat scores. Kids can apply test optionsl there as well. I was surprised by this. (I am not talking about oxford/cambridge which have higher academic requirements). I will also add that there has always been a decent size American expat community in these schools. It's not a new idea.


It's nice for schools like St Andrews that they don't seem to get judged on yield . . . . They can afford to accept a large number of international students know that only, say, 10% of them will yield.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 18:19     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Anonymous wrote:Wonderful news, more room for my child! That said, applying and attending are 2 different things.


Do you even wonder why students are applying elsewhere? Maybe the fact the graduate work has lost funding? Maybe it’s the fact that the professors running those projects are also applying to institutions overseas to continue with funded work?
Or maybe it’s because the student loan program has now been moved to the small business association and the future of loans is not super clear?

I hope your child enjoys that prime spot at a school without funded research or professors who are at the top of their fields.

That sounds like education is being made great again.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 18:17     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Anonymous wrote:Wonderful news, more room for my child! That said, applying and attending are 2 different things. [/quote


Do you even wonder why students are applying elsewhere? Maybe the fact the graduate work has lost funding? Maybe it’s the fact that the professors running those projects are also applying to institutions overseas to continue with funded work?
Or maybe it’s because the student loan program has now been moved to the small business association and the future of loans is not super clear?

I hope your child enjoys that prime spot at a school without funded research or professors who are at the top of their fields.

That sounds like education is being made great again.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 15:27     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
My kid applied to 5 up schools through UCAS and 2 EU schools.
For him it was Ivy + or going abroad. He ended up waitlisted at two ivies and Stanford. He then accepted and confirmed an English uni only to be accepted from the Waitlist at one of the Ivies. To my surprise, he turned down the Ivy spot….
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 14:45     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
There aren't enough English speaking universities to take a substantial number of Americans going abroad, and our national joke of "4 years of high school foreign language" isn't sending many kids to non-English speaking universities.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 14:40     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this will have a significant impact on how difficult it is to get into the uk universities. The numbers from India and China are much larger than the US, so if these continue to fall a little the overall number of overseas students won’t change much.

I think US students will integrate much more easily that Chinese given the language issues.


Chinese students learn English and other languages and do fine. They are used to working much harder than US students.


Some do. More don’t, and don’t integrate socially at all with the locals. Having a very large non-integrated community isn’t great for the student dynamics.


Tired: Drunken frat boy rapists

Wired: non-integrsted Chiness.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 12:55     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
^one more opening for Barnard or Wesleyan
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 11:54     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Anonymous wrote:Makes sense. There are some fantastic universities overseas and in Canada, plus tuition is lower than a US private university.

Lower cost abroad is the critical factor.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 11:49     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Many American kids apply to uk/irish/eu schools as safety schools. St. Andrews, trinity, etc. I know 4 kids going this year. For 2 kids, it was their best option- either highest ranked acceptance or just didn't like their other options. For the other 2 kids, the lower cost was the main driver. Its pretty easy for public school kids as long as they have ap courses - and the schools i mentioned don't require the ap tests. They also don't even need act or sat scores. Kids can apply test optionsl there as well. I was surprised by this. (I am not talking about oxford/cambridge which have higher academic requirements). I will also add that there has always been a decent size American expat community in these schools. It's not a new idea.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 10:58     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Anonymous wrote:Not surprising, more transparent process, greater focus on academic achievement over ECs, greater value for the money and a host of outstanding institutions to apply to, expect the numbers to continue to grow.



You failed to mention the most important reason. This presidential administration is gutting our educational and research infrastructure, while also decimating our economy.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 10:57     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
These are do smart kids! I’d get the H out of here if I could, too.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 10:38     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Anonymous wrote:Who cares! Not the in-crowd. From
Our affluent suburb mostly females who come from liberal homes and kids are not athletic. For some when they came back state side the transition was harder.




This gets the prize for most idiotic comment on this thread…..
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 10:35     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Anonymous wrote:Who cares! Not the in-crowd. From
Our affluent suburb mostly females who come from liberal homes and kids are not athletic. For some when they came back state side the transition was harder.


Yeah, I get it. It would be a blow to their nascent career as a sorority influencer posting thirst traps from Cancun.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 10:21     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Who cares! Not the in-crowd. From
Our affluent suburb mostly females who come from liberal homes and kids are not athletic. For some when they came back state side the transition was harder.


Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 10:09     Subject: Record Number of U.S. Students Apply for U.K. Undergraduate Degrees For 2025-26
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this will have a significant impact on how difficult it is to get into the uk universities. The numbers from India and China are much larger than the US, so if these continue to fall a little the overall number of overseas students won’t change much.

I think US students will integrate much more easily that Chinese given the language issues.


Chinese students learn English and other languages and do fine. They are used to working much harder than US students.


Some do. More don’t, and don’t integrate socially at all with the locals. Having a very large non-integrated community isn’t great for the student dynamics.