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Anonymous wrote:Middle class families are anything but "donut hole." In many cases, they qualify for FA covering full tuition.

When people say middle class here. They don’t mean the actual middle class.

Breaking ED agreements, a history of the college accepting students from your high school but students rejecting (low yield), poor curriculum match, competitive state are just a few major reasons why

Anonymous wrote:It's really hard to break through. For whatever reason, Vanderbilt never accepts anyone from our HS, which sends loads to Ivies including HYP every year. Rumor is a couple of kids broke ED agreements a while back and Vandy wrote us off. Who knows if it's true. But I personally know 5 uber qualified kids who tried for Vandy, including with ED, and all were rejected. No rhyme or reason.

Sidwell?

Middle class families are anything but "donut hole." In many cases, they qualify for FA covering full tuition.

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest elite private colleges follow the full-pay gravey train. The will send their representatives to Greenwich, Potomac etc as opposed to middle class and rural areas. Thus restricting the number of admits from poor areas. The preference to private schools is shameful and allows wealthier families to game the system.

Sorry, you are just wrong. The T20 schools have the best/ most financial aid. They are looking for the best students, many of whom have been honed from birth via $$ investment, including private schools. They are also looking for diamonds in the rough, students who show very high promise despite a clear lack of investment and support. Donut hole kids -- from middle class and upper middle class families -- do not get much attention here.

Below the T20, especially for private colleges, aid is not as extensive and the focus on full-pay students because they are full pay is more intentional.

Anonymous wrote:Our rigorous DMV private has a terrible track record with Brown (as seen in SCOIR) over the past 5 years. Plenty of students getting into comparable schools. Former HOS is a Brown alumna. So odd.

Our DC Private has a terrible track record with Princeton.

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Anonymous wrote:Some avoid religious High Schools.

Because the level of education at those Hight Schools just is not there why waste their time.

Those kids can apply to places like Liberty etc..

Religious schools teach their kids how to read and write properly - a skill that is (obviously) severely lacking these days...

There are excellent, rigorous Catholic and Jewish and insert your religion here high schools.

There are Southern “segregationist” schools that were formed to keep black kids out post Brown v Board and now focus on protecting kids from learning about evolution and reading any book that Moms For Liberty (or whatever they are called) happen to dislike. Including oe in my hometown where kids I know went— and graduated with an inability to read at 4th grade level.

There are online religious high school programs favored by the Duggars.

And everything in between. Your kid can get an excellent education at a religious high school. Or no real education. Just like non religious private schools or public school. I’m assuming by the Liberty swipe PP is talking about the later two and not Gonzaga or Visitation.

Dartmouth doesnt take kids from out HS that go on to HYP and MIT. I dont think they understand our transcript tbh.

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest elite private colleges follow the full-pay gravey train. The will send their representatives to Greenwich, Potomac etc as opposed to middle class and rural areas. Thus restricting the number of admits from poor areas. The preference to private schools is shameful and allows wealthier families to game the system.

Rural kids are actively sought…you’re wrong.

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest elite private colleges follow the full-pay gravey train. The will send their representatives to Greenwich, Potomac etc as opposed to middle class and rural areas. Thus restricting the number of admits from poor areas. The preference to private schools is shameful and allows wealthier families to game the system.

They go to rural areas, but are not interested in middle class public school kids.

Let’s be honest elite private colleges follow the full-pay gravey train. The will send their representatives to Greenwich, Potomac etc as opposed to middle class and rural areas. Thus restricting the number of admits from poor areas. The preference to private schools is shameful and allows wealthier families to game the system.

Our rigorous DMV private has a terrible track record with Brown (as seen in SCOIR) over the past 5 years. Plenty of students getting into comparable schools. Former HOS is a Brown alumna. So odd.

Anonymous wrote:Some avoid religious High Schools.

Because the level of education at those Hight Schools just is not there why waste their time.

Those kids can apply to places like Liberty etc..

Religious schools teach their kids how to read and write properly - a skill that is (obviously) severely lacking these days...

Colleges actually track student outcomes. They watch what schools send good students, good leaders, etc.. they also track who transfers out.
When I applied to the NESCAC school I attended, my college counselor told me this school hates NYC private school kids, and in fact, I got waitlisted despite having high stats, much higher than my eventual classmates. I think the school got burnt on too many NYC transferring out b/c the school is in the middle of nowhere.
In any event, stats could show that students from a particular hs have just not done well at the college for whatever reasons