Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 17:26     Subject: Re:U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
I'm guessing it is on video. DHS says that he was interfering with an arrest. The truth will come out one way or the other.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 17:03     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Who knows how many laws they break but I’m sure it’s a common occurrence.


Conjecture


We are witnessing, with our own eyes, captured on phones around the country, ICE breaking laws on a daily basis.

There's no conjecture. Step off with that crap.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 16:37     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote: Who knows how many laws they break but I’m sure it’s a common occurrence.


Conjecture
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 09:45     Subject: Re:U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Whelp. I had stated repeatedly that all Hispanics should carry their passport/real ID around, but I guess that doesn't even help anymore. Trump's gestapo will just say it's fake.

If a hispanic MAGA gets arrested that will surely be a FAFO scenario.

Every minority should be worried about what Trump's gestapo is doing. It could be you at some point. Don't think you are special.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 00:21     Subject: Re:U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
If your due process doesn't lead to the desired solution, that is not good enough.

This sounds better in the original German.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 21:39     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote:They are testing Americans.

Who, at this point, are largely silent. Everytime we normalize it or don’t make noise, they push harder.


This STOP BURYING your heads you are next!!!
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 21:35     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question, was Leonardo Garcia Venegas actually arrested?


He was “detained” for several hours. Legally, the line between detained and arrested can be fuzzy, and depends on how long you are held and why. But, he was handcuffed, hauled away and not free to leave for several hours , despite displaying proof of citizenship. So, if this was you or your kid, would you argue— hey just detained, no actual arrest— no harm done? I suspect not.


The title says arrested. It seems that is a lie. Detained is a far cry from arrested.


Splitting hairs in this manner is not helping your argument.


Well, those arrested might disagree.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 21:33     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question, was Leonardo Garcia Venegas actually arrested?


He was “detained” for several hours. Legally, the line between detained and arrested can be fuzzy, and depends on how long you are held and why. But, he was handcuffed, hauled away and not free to leave for several hours , despite displaying proof of citizenship. So, if this was you or your kid, would you argue— hey just detained, no actual arrest— no harm done? I suspect not.


The title says arrested. It seems that is a lie. Detained is a far cry from arrested.


Splitting hairs in this manner is not helping your argument.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 21:33     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question, was Leonardo Garcia Venegas actually arrested?


He was “detained” for several hours. Legally, the line between detained and arrested can be fuzzy, and depends on how long you are held and why. But, he was handcuffed, hauled away and not free to leave for several hours , despite displaying proof of citizenship. So, if this was you or your kid, would you argue— hey just detained, no actual arrest— no harm done? I suspect not.


The title says arrested. It seems that is a lie. Detained is a far cry from arrested.


No. It’s really not.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 20:30     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when the Secretary of Homeland Security doesn't understand what habeas corpus is.


So. Much. This. Except add: and feels that the constitution is an optional annoyance. This is why immigrants get due process folks.


What exactly is the due process by which we can deport the ten million that Biden let in?
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 17:40     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
DHS seems to think they arrested him.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 17:36     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question, was Leonardo Garcia Venegas actually arrested?


He was “detained” for several hours. Legally, the line between detained and arrested can be fuzzy, and depends on how long you are held and why. But, he was handcuffed, hauled away and not free to leave for several hours , despite displaying proof of citizenship. So, if this was you or your kid, would you argue— hey just detained, no actual arrest— no harm done? I suspect not.


The title says arrested. It seems that is a lie. Detained is a far cry from arrested.


I hope you are handcuffed and detained and then you can tell us what a far cry the two are
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 17:34     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Also from DHS: “Anyone who actively obstructs law enforcement in the performance of their sworn duties, including U.S. citizens, will of course face consequences which include arrest.”

Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 17:32     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question, was Leonardo Garcia Venegas actually arrested?


He was “detained” for several hours. Legally, the line between detained and arrested can be fuzzy, and depends on how long you are held and why. But, he was handcuffed, hauled away and not free to leave for several hours , despite displaying proof of citizenship. So, if this was you or your kid, would you argue— hey just detained, no actual arrest— no harm done? I suspect not.


The title says arrested. It seems that is a lie. Detained is a far cry from arrested.


Far cry? Armed agents are putting you in handcuffs and telling you where you can and cannot go and not letting you leave? Sounds like a pretty close cry to me.


Is there a mugshot when you get detained? Do you get fingerprinted? Does being detained show up on your record?

Again, detained is a far cry from arrested.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2025 17:26     Subject: U.S. Citizen arrested; “officials” say Real ID fake
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honest question, was Leonardo Garcia Venegas actually arrested?


He was “detained” for several hours. Legally, the line between detained and arrested can be fuzzy, and depends on how long you are held and why. But, he was handcuffed, hauled away and not free to leave for several hours , despite displaying proof of citizenship. So, if this was you or your kid, would you argue— hey just detained, no actual arrest— no harm done? I suspect not.


The title says arrested. It seems that is a lie. Detained is a far cry from arrested.


Far cry? Armed agents are putting you in handcuffs and telling you where you can and cannot go and not letting you leave? Sounds like a pretty close cry to me.