Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The dog owner, IMO. Your pet does something, it's your responsibility.
Dog needs to be reported to animal control as well.
Absent further detail re: the circumstances, this is stupidly oversimplified. If I put my pet in someone else's care, they're responsible for what happens to my pet, and also potentially liable.
If your pet acts aggressively, it's your responsibility.
I have personally been bitten by a dog for the family I babysat for, there was no provocation and nothing I could have done in that moment to prevent getting bitten.
If a dog attacks another dog without provocation or warning there was nothing the person watching the dog could have done.
There is no such thing as attacking without provocation/ out of the blue. Sounds like there are many people on here who do not understand dog behaviour and should not be owners if you believe stuff like this. Unless your dog is cujo, there are always signs. If you ignore them and an animal gets hurt, that’s your fault as the supervising human.
There are usually signs over time but not immediately. The owners would be the ones to notice patterns of behavior and had a duty to warn someone watching the dog. The idea that someone babysitting a dog should be able to anticipate behavior immediately from someone else's dog is completely unrealistic.
It is also 100% on the owners to notice and train out aggressive behavior. Someone caring for a dog for a couple days does not have the experience with the dog to recognize its individual warning signs and certainly doesn't have time to train out aggression.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hi DCUM,
Question re financial responsibilities of the dog owners vs pet sitters
here is the deal - my friend fosters dogs regularly, and sometimes takes relative's dog in when they have to travel (free of charge). All was ok until it wasn't: relative's dog attacked foster dog out of the blue, foster had wounds were serious enough for emergency vet visit. Initially, the rescue covered all of the bills, but now is asking for reimbursement.
Who is responsible for that bill? Dog owner or pet sitter/dog foster?
The owner of the violent dog is the person that is responsible for all legal liability. I don't understand how that's remotely questionable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The dog owner, IMO. Your pet does something, it's your responsibility.
Dog needs to be reported to animal control as well.
Absent further detail re: the circumstances, this is stupidly oversimplified. If I put my pet in someone else's care, they're responsible for what happens to my pet, and also potentially liable.
If your pet acts aggressively, it's your responsibility.
I have personally been bitten by a dog for the family I babysat for, there was no provocation and nothing I could have done in that moment to prevent getting bitten.
If a dog attacks another dog without provocation or warning there was nothing the person watching the dog could have done.
There is no such thing as attacking without provocation/ out of the blue. Sounds like there are many people on here who do not understand dog behaviour and should not be owners if you believe stuff like this. Unless your dog is cujo, there are always signs. If you ignore them and an animal gets hurt, that’s your fault as the supervising human.
There are usually signs over time but not immediately. The owners would be the ones to notice patterns of behavior and had a duty to warn someone watching the dog. The idea that someone babysitting a dog should be able to anticipate behavior immediately from someone else's dog is completely unrealistic.
It is also 100% on the owners to notice and train out aggressive behavior. Someone caring for a dog for a couple days does not have the experience with the dog to recognize its individual warning signs and certainly doesn't have time to train out aggression.
Anonymous wrote:Hi DCUM,
Question re financial responsibilities of the dog owners vs pet sitters
here is the deal - my friend fosters dogs regularly, and sometimes takes relative's dog in when they have to travel (free of charge). All was ok until it wasn't: relative's dog attacked foster dog out of the blue, foster had wounds were serious enough for emergency vet visit. Initially, the rescue covered all of the bills, but now is asking for reimbursement.
Who is responsible for that bill? Dog owner or pet sitter/dog foster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm going to copypaste pp because they get it and a lot of y'all need to.
"There's always a warning. People just tend to either ignore it or misread it. In this instance, the person in question should definitely have had the dogs separated and should have paid more attention. People who foster dogs should probably be required to take a class, but typically they aren't and rescue groups are mostly volunteers so here we are."
People ought to have a certification tests and an actual license to own animals the same way you need a license to drive a car. All dogs can bite, and the person on-duty is responsible for the animal(s) in their care.
"There is no such thing as attacking without provocation/ out of the blue. Sounds like there are many people on here who do not understand dog behaviour and should not be owners if you believe stuff like this. Unless your dog is cujo, there are always signs. If you ignore them and an animal gets hurt, that’s your fault as the supervising human."
Seriously. If you don't understand dogs, you'll think it's "out of the blue" when, to a more experienced/intelligent owner/handler, there are all kinds of signs. Even Cujo had signs, and a dog like that is a known issue; they don't "just snap" the way some of your idiots would allege.
If you're not willing to learn how dogs work, at least enough to handle them safely, you shouldn't have or handle dogs.
Okay, so I was the babysitter in this case who was attacked by the family's dog. I was 17 years old when I was attacked. What warning signs and obligations did I, as the person in the house have and ability to correct the dog that bit me. For what it's worth I did prevent the young children in the house from being bitten, my putting myself physically between them.
So this whole "there are always signs". If your dog is dangerous enough that someone has to be a dog mind reader to be safe around your dog, you are a bad dog owner who handed someone a hand grenade.
It's on the owners.
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to copypaste pp because they get it and a lot of y'all need to.
"There's always a warning. People just tend to either ignore it or misread it. In this instance, the person in question should definitely have had the dogs separated and should have paid more attention. People who foster dogs should probably be required to take a class, but typically they aren't and rescue groups are mostly volunteers so here we are."
People ought to have a certification tests and an actual license to own animals the same way you need a license to drive a car. All dogs can bite, and the person on-duty is responsible for the animal(s) in their care.
"There is no such thing as attacking without provocation/ out of the blue. Sounds like there are many people on here who do not understand dog behaviour and should not be owners if you believe stuff like this. Unless your dog is cujo, there are always signs. If you ignore them and an animal gets hurt, that’s your fault as the supervising human."
Seriously. If you don't understand dogs, you'll think it's "out of the blue" when, to a more experienced/intelligent owner/handler, there are all kinds of signs. Even Cujo had signs, and a dog like that is a known issue; they don't "just snap" the way some of your idiots would allege.
If you're not willing to learn how dogs work, at least enough to handle them safely, you shouldn't have or handle dogs.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The dog owner, IMO. Your pet does something, it's your responsibility.
Dog needs to be reported to animal control as well.
Absent further detail re: the circumstances, this is stupidly oversimplified. If I put my pet in someone else's care, they're responsible for what happens to my pet, and also potentially liable.
If your pet acts aggressively, it's your responsibility.
I have personally been bitten by a dog for the family I babysat for, there was no provocation and nothing I could have done in that moment to prevent getting bitten.
If a dog attacks another dog without provocation or warning there was nothing the person watching the dog could have done.
There is no such thing as attacking without provocation/ out of the blue. Sounds like there are many people on here who do not understand dog behaviour and should not be owners if you believe stuff like this. Unless your dog is cujo, there are always signs. If you ignore them and an animal gets hurt, that’s your fault as the supervising human.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The dog owner, IMO. Your pet does something, it's your responsibility.
Dog needs to be reported to animal control as well.
Absent further detail re: the circumstances, this is stupidly oversimplified. If I put my pet in someone else's care, they're responsible for what happens to my pet, and also potentially liable.
If your pet acts aggressively, it's your responsibility.
I have personally been bitten by a dog for the family I babysat for, there was no provocation and nothing I could have done in that moment to prevent getting bitten.
If a dog attacks another dog without provocation or warning there was nothing the person watching the dog could have done.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The dog owner, IMO. Your pet does something, it's your responsibility.
Dog needs to be reported to animal control as well.
Absent further detail re: the circumstances, this is stupidly oversimplified. If I put my pet in someone else's care, they're responsible for what happens to my pet, and also potentially liable.
If your pet acts aggressively, it's your responsibility.
I have personally been bitten by a dog for the family I babysat for, there was no provocation and nothing I could have done in that moment to prevent getting bitten.
If a dog attacks another dog without provocation or warning there was nothing the person watching the dog could have done.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The dog owner, IMO. Your pet does something, it's your responsibility.
Dog needs to be reported to animal control as well.
Absent further detail re: the circumstances, this is stupidly oversimplified. If I put my pet in someone else's care, they're responsible for what happens to my pet, and also potentially liable.
Anonymous wrote:The dog owner, IMO. Your pet does something, it's your responsibility.
Dog needs to be reported to animal control as well.
Anonymous wrote:Hi DCUM,
Question re financial responsibilities of the dog owners vs pet sitters
here is the deal - my friend fosters dogs regularly, and sometimes takes relative's dog in when they have to travel (free of charge). All was ok until it wasn't: relative's dog attacked foster dog out of the blue, foster had wounds were serious enough for emergency vet visit. Initially, the rescue covered all of the bills, but now is asking for reimbursement.
Who is responsible for that bill? Dog owner or pet sitter/dog foster?