Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is "oxymoronic"? ALex.

This. If they aren't hard to get into, what is the point?

DCUM will never be satisfied.

If the application schools are hard to get into, it’s a crisis because “what if my kid doesn’t get into one?”

If the application schools are not so hard to get into, it’s “what’s the point?”

The fact is that Banneker, McKinley, and Duke are considerably more successful than most neighborhood high schools in DC. That’s the point.

It’s hard to define success for Duke…it’s not particularly successful from traditional academic metrics…and the arts are a tough business.

So, if it produces Dave Chappell or other famous artists at all…I guess that’s success…but it’s still less than 1% of their grads (which is still much higher than the 0% of famous artists from 98% of all high schools).

By conventional academic metrics, Duke is “considerably more successful than most neighborhood high schools in DC.” That’s what I said and it’s objectively true. For example, Duke has the fifth highest average SAT score in DCPS, after Walls, Banneker, J-R, and McKinley Tech.

It’s like some of you want a trophy for living in the town with the most selective academic high school. Sorry, but as a parent I don’t care about that. I want decent schools that my kid can get into.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:easy is always relative. you dont need to be a near perfect student or get lucky to get into Tech.

But that doesn't mean if you're a good student you're going to get in, that just means they're not really looking at that.

OP started this thread by saying that “virtually everyone” in their child’s 8th grade class “got into one of the application HS.”

For some reason DCUM seems determined to believe that this is impossible, but it happens every year.

I don't think it's impossible. I just think it's random.

some kids are very artistic and motivated but academics are hard. duke just fits them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is "oxymoronic"? ALex.

This. If they aren't hard to get into, what is the point?

DCUM will never be satisfied.

If the application schools are hard to get into, it’s a crisis because “what if my kid doesn’t get into one?”

If the application schools are not so hard to get into, it’s “what’s the point?”

The fact is that Banneker, McKinley, and Duke are considerably more successful than most neighborhood high schools in DC. That’s the point.

It’s hard to define success for Duke…it’s not particularly successful from traditional academic metrics…and the arts are a tough business.

So, if it produces Dave Chappell or other famous artists at all…I guess that’s success…but it’s still less than 1% of their grads (which is still much higher than the 0% of famous artists from 98% of all high schools).

Walls has limited seats and is pretty unpredictable. If you are however open to any of Walls, Banneker, and McKinley Tech, a bright and reasonably school focus middle school student will get into one of them. MacArthur is a pain to get to from the eastern side of the city but also is not an application school and did not fill all lottery spots.

Privates are even easier. Every single kid got into private.

From what middle school?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is "oxymoronic"? ALex.

This. If they aren't hard to get into, what is the point?

DCUM will never be satisfied.

If the application schools are hard to get into, it’s a crisis because “what if my kid doesn’t get into one?”

If the application schools are not so hard to get into, it’s “what’s the point?”

The fact is that Banneker, McKinley, and Duke are considerably more successful than most neighborhood high schools in DC. That’s the point.

It's not a crisis because they're hard to get into. I think what people want is a bit more predictability in the system. Right now it feels pretty arbitrary because there's so little information about how essays, interviews, etc. are actually evaluated. And if there were less-selective schools that still felt like okay options, that would be nice too. Right now it feels like it's selective or you have to move.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is "oxymoronic"? ALex.

This. If they aren't hard to get into, what is the point?

DCUM will never be satisfied.

If the application schools are hard to get into, it’s a crisis because “what if my kid doesn’t get into one?”

If the application schools are not so hard to get into, it’s “what’s the point?”

The fact is that Banneker, McKinley, and Duke are considerably more successful than most neighborhood high schools in DC. That’s the point.

Anonymous wrote:What is "oxymoronic"? ALex.

This. If they aren't hard to get into, what is the point?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:easy is always relative. you dont need to be a near perfect student or get lucky to get into Tech.

But that doesn't mean if you're a good student you're going to get in, that just means they're not really looking at that.

OP started this thread by saying that “virtually everyone” in their child’s 8th grade class “got into one of the application HS.”

For some reason DCUM seems determined to believe that this is impossible, but it happens every year.

I don't think it's impossible, but it's also possible for a school to have a rough year and kids be shut out. And I also don't think it's very helpful because Ellington isn't for everyone.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:easy is always relative. you dont need to be a near perfect student or get lucky to get into Tech.

But that doesn't mean if you're a good student you're going to get in, that just means they're not really looking at that.

OP started this thread by saying that “virtually everyone” in their child’s 8th grade class “got into one of the application HS.”

For some reason DCUM seems determined to believe that this is impossible, but it happens every year.

Anonymous wrote:easy is always relative. you dont need to be a near perfect student or get lucky to get into Tech.

But that doesn't mean if you're a good student you're going to get in, that just means they're not really looking at that.

easy is always relative. you dont need to be a near perfect student or get lucky to get into Tech.

What is "oxymoronic"? ALex.