Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 10:19     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:He's being practical - in this current climate, no need to draw negative attention to Maryland from the current administration.


Agree.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 08:59     Subject: Re:Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

I imagine Moore knew this was political suicide if he signed this bill, and also that if the MD house could override his veto anyway.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 06:13     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was right to do so. Maryland is in a bad financial place. The credit rating was just downgraded by Moody's. They can't afford reparations right now, and that's even before you get into all the many, many practical problems with reparations at the state level. Spending a few million on a consultant to study reparations would be a waste.


Where is there information on the fact they would contract with a consultant?

The fiscal note for the bill says the Archives would hire one contractual staffer to staff the commission. And generally, the commission itself does the work. The fiscal note says the bill costs $55,000 in the first fiscal year.

I don't think it's a good idea, but I don't see cost as a factor.
https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2025RS/fnotes/bil_0007/sb0587.pdf



NP here. The study was estimated to cost in total over $1 million. That is the issue. Did posters do any research on this before they post what’s the harm in doing the study?

Maryland is in a huge budget crisis. Moore is in the unfortunate situation of being the relatively new governor of a state well known for historically being very well funded and progressive. So normally this type of idea would have passed. But in 2025 Maryland has a huge budget shortfall and has to raise state taxes which is not being well received by Marylanders. There is no extra money in Maryland FOR ANYTHING.

Next time these “consultants” should be more honest in their estimates when they respond to RFPs. I would start with blaming them for their inflated, ridiculous prices, whether it’s $1 million total estimated cost or even $55,000 a year (for how many years?).
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 21:49     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

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Anonymous wrote:He’s definitely trying to appeal to the conservative side in preparation for his future presidential campaign


I wouldn’t even that far. Reparations is such a political loser that it just demonstrates that the man has a pulse. I commend him for being alive and breathing in 2025.


+1


+2.


Well, someone better tell President Booker that this is bad politics.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-members-congress-reparations-t-192806876.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall


He ran for President in 2020 and lost badly. He's not in line with most democrats and will not get out of the single digits again in 2028.


I dunno.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/02/cory-booker-2028-presidential-bid/82772935007/




Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 21:40     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s definitely trying to appeal to the conservative side in preparation for his future presidential campaign


I wouldn’t even that far. Reparations is such a political loser that it just demonstrates that the man has a pulse. I commend him for being alive and breathing in 2025.


+1


+2.


Well, someone better tell President Booker that this is bad politics.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-members-congress-reparations-t-192806876.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall


He ran for President in 2020 and lost badly. He's not in line with most democrats and will not get out of the single digits again in 2028.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 20:24     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was right to do so. Maryland is in a bad financial place. The credit rating was just downgraded by Moody's. They can't afford reparations right now, and that's even before you get into all the many, many practical problems with reparations at the state level. Spending a few million on a consultant to study reparations would be a waste.


Where is there information on the fact they would contract with a consultant?

The fiscal note for the bill says the Archives would hire one contractual staffer to staff the commission. And generally, the commission itself does the work. The fiscal note says the bill costs $55,000 in the first fiscal year.

I don't think it's a good idea, but I don't see cost as a factor.
https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2025RS/fnotes/bil_0007/sb0587.pdf



Yes, it's just one study. How many others are going on? And the primary finding will be, "We need a bigger study."
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 19:26     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s definitely trying to appeal to the conservative side in preparation for his future presidential campaign


I wouldn’t even that far. Reparations is such a political loser that it just demonstrates that the man has a pulse. I commend him for being alive and breathing in 2025.


+1


+2.


Well, someone better tell President Booker that this is bad politics.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-members-congress-reparations-t-192806876.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 16:29     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s definitely trying to appeal to the conservative side in preparation for his future presidential campaign


I wouldn’t even that far. Reparations is such a political loser that it just demonstrates that the man has a pulse. I commend him for being alive and breathing in 2025.


+1. Many black people find the idea of reparations to be repulsive and offensive. It's a fringe idea. Pretty much no reasonably intelligent person thinks it's a good idea.


I got blocked by Nicole Hannah Jones on Twitter for pointing this out 😂

We cannot afford any more empty, incindiary messaging.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 16:27     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Reparations is a concept that needs to be put in the archives for a very long time.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 15:13     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s definitely trying to appeal to the conservative side in preparation for his future presidential campaign


I wouldn’t even that far. Reparations is such a political loser that it just demonstrates that the man has a pulse. I commend him for being alive and breathing in 2025.


+1


+2.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 15:12     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s definitely trying to appeal to the conservative side in preparation for his future presidential campaign


I wouldn’t even that far. Reparations is such a political loser that it just demonstrates that the man has a pulse. I commend him for being alive and breathing in 2025.


+1
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 13:07     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:He was right to do so. Maryland is in a bad financial place. The credit rating was just downgraded by Moody's. They can't afford reparations right now, and that's even before you get into all the many, many practical problems with reparations at the state level. Spending a few million on a consultant to study reparations would be a waste.


Where is there information on the fact they would contract with a consultant?

The fiscal note for the bill says the Archives would hire one contractual staffer to staff the commission. And generally, the commission itself does the work. The fiscal note says the bill costs $55,000 in the first fiscal year.

I don't think it's a good idea, but I don't see cost as a factor.
https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2025RS/fnotes/bil_0007/sb0587.pdf

Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 12:08     Subject: Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Only thing I agree with. What a terrible choice he has been.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 12:00     Subject: Re:Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder that “reparations” don’t have to be financial. They can be, of course, bet reparations actually encompass a wide range of potential repairs. Making it sound like passing out checks is an easy out when it comes to looking honestly at our history as a country and as a state.


Well, the people who advocate for these studies and commissions want checks. There's already been every other "repair" imaginable.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 11:46     Subject: Re:Governor Moore vetoes bill to study reparations

Just a reminder that “reparations” don’t have to be financial. They can be, of course, bet reparations actually encompass a wide range of potential repairs. Making it sound like passing out checks is an easy out when it comes to looking honestly at our history as a country and as a state.