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Anonymous wrote:No back door.

You need the stats and you need to convince them that you really want to be in law school. Lots of NYU undergrads will apply.

You also need to have a compelling story and be unique in some way. They don’t want a class full of UMC white suburban kids. They want a diverse class in every way.

It’s tough out there. My Phi Beta Kappa/174 kid never even got a response from their NYU law school application and was waitlisted or rejected from every other T13 they applied to.

Something must have been missing from his application file.

Yeah something was missing. My kid and his ivy 2023 peers all got into T14 and many got T5s, with 0-1 year off, all had 3.8+ but none were phi beta kappa.

I don’t know what to tell you. Nothing was “missing”. Maybe the fact that your kids went to an Ivy was a boost.

The poster didn’t say that her kid applied to every T-14 school, only that of the T-14 schools the kid did apply to the kid was rejected. I know a kid with similar stats who only applied to HY and S two years ago was not accepted to any of them. I’m sure he would have been accepted to at least one T-14 school and probably many others had he applied to them. He spread his net the next year and was accepted to several schools, including Columbia and Harvard, and is attending the latter.

Why would anyone want to get into this miserable profession.

Anonymous wrote:No back door.

You need the stats and you need to convince them that you really want to be in law school. Lots of NYU undergrads will apply.

You also need to have a compelling story and be unique in some way. They don’t want a class full of UMC white suburban kids. They want a diverse class in every way.

It’s tough out there. My Phi Beta Kappa/174 kid never even got a response from their NYU law school application and was waitlisted or rejected from every other T13 they applied to.

Probably because they’re k-jd.

Anonymous wrote:My T14 law school was very proud of its diversity, meaning they wanted as many undergrad institutions represented as possible. Very little boost given to admit students who had already been there four years for undergrad. Some of it is forward thinking to alumni donations- if you already went to X college undergrad and donate there, will you separately donate to same X law school? Maybe, maybe not.

I got into my top choice law school very easily, and I remember how after I got to school one of the deans said something about how they'd never had anyone from my (open-admissions fine arts urban) college before.

While it’s usually dicey to generalize, those who are generalizing here that going to the undergraduate school of a law school has no impact on admission to the law school are flatly wrong. There is a reason why at many of the top law schools the single most represented college in each incoming class is from the law school’s undergraduate school. Particularly on the margins, and on the waitlist, many schools do in fact, prefer their own undergraduates because they know what they’re getting and they’re rewarding loyalty.

It can actually make it harder if lots of undergrad alums are applying. Law schools value diversity of undergrad institution, so they they don't tend to admit a lot of folks from any one undergrad, including their own.

& 2023 and 2025 are very different

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No back door.

You need the stats and you need to convince them that you really want to be in law school. Lots of NYU undergrads will apply.

You also need to have a compelling story and be unique in some way. They don’t want a class full of UMC white suburban kids. They want a diverse class in every way.

It’s tough out there. My Phi Beta Kappa/174 kid never even got a response from their NYU law school application and was waitlisted or rejected from every other T13 they applied to.

Something must have been missing from his application file.

Yeah something was missing. My kid and his ivy 2023 peers all got into T14 and many got T5s, with 0-1 year off, all had 3.8+ but none were phi beta kappa.

I don’t know what to tell you. Nothing was “missing”. Maybe the fact that your kids went to an Ivy was a boost.

Anonymous wrote:Little to no benefit unless at schools that explicitly state there is a benefit and/or have a strong preference for schools in their prestige league.

Disagree.

My T14 law school was very proud of its diversity, meaning they wanted as many undergrad institutions represented as possible. Very little boost given to admit students who had already been there four years for undergrad. Some of it is forward thinking to alumni donations- if you already went to X college undergrad and donate there, will you separately donate to same X law school? Maybe, maybe not.

Anonymous wrote:Some law schools which offer ED admissions:

U Chicago, U Penn, Northwestern, Cornell, NYU, Virginia, Georgetown, Michigan, & Berkeley.

And Harvard with the junior acceptance/deferral program

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No back door.

You need the stats and you need to convince them that you really want to be in law school. Lots of NYU undergrads will apply.

You also need to have a compelling story and be unique in some way. They don’t want a class full of UMC white suburban kids. They want a diverse class in every way.

It’s tough out there. My Phi Beta Kappa/174 kid never even got a response from their NYU law school application and was waitlisted or rejected from every other T13 they applied to.

Something must have been missing from his application file.

Yeah something was missing. My kid and his ivy 2023 peers all got into T14 and many got T5s, with 0-1 year off, all had 3.8+ but none were phi beta kappa.

Some law schools which offer ED admissions:

U Chicago, U Penn, Northwestern, Cornell, NYU, Virginia, Georgetown, Michigan, & Berkeley.

Law schools use race even more than undergrad admissions.

Anonymous[b wrote:]There is no early decision for law school.[/b]

Law school admissions is holistic but the LSAT requirements are pretty strict (unless you are URM or your dad is Al Gore or something like that).

There is no same school preference that I have ever heard of

And if your phi beta kappa kid got a 174 LSAT and didn't get into t14, they put something in their essay that indicated they didn't really want to go to law school.

Incorrect on both assertions. Take a few minutes and do a quick google search.