Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overuse. Kids who play HS and Club are doing double practices 2-3 times a week.

Most clubs let them have the spring off

Yes the shitty ones do who have no HS teams in the playoffs

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you’ve got a chip in your shoulder. Sorry your kid got hurt.

We just had a girl have an overuse injury in our team. She plays - rec lacrosse, 2 travel basketball teams, rec soccer and our second team at our age group for our ECNL club. Club takes precedence, but there are weekend days when she leaves our soccer game and has two more games lined up.

I don’t think you can make generalizations. Some are overuse, some are covering for weaker players (or, seen different, someone who can’t stick to their position and ball hogs).

This is the fault of the over zealous parents who think their kid is a multi-sport super star. Any kid who has an "overuse" injury is being pushed by the parents. Parents have the responsibility to take care of their kids and force their kids to have proper recovery time. Recovery doesn't equal a good night's sleep. 1-2 days off after intense training is also needed.

Totally agree. It’s so damaging to these kids bodies. And they will continue to feel the affects into adulthood and particularly as they age.

So much self confirmation bias in this thread.

We have players who play at higher levels and lower levels. We have a coach who coaches at high school and for ECNL. We have ECNL players being injured by other ECNL players. We have ECNL players injuring non-ECNL players. We have non-ECNL players injuring ECNL players. We have pretty good soccer based on what I see in ECNL club (it lacks a bit of technique in tight spaces, vision, and speed) but overall the differences are not so much as to blame injuries in my opinion. I think you could blame the refs in how they manage games for some injuries. When you have more aggressive players over playing because of the player they are against it can often be the better player who is used to a looser called game.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overuse is from the HS schedule/training, too -- for my kid this year ... 3 practices and 2 games a week (which is more than club). That's a grind. Also, the wide differences in level, lax referring + 80 min games lead to on the field injuries. That's why I don't blame those who skip HS altogether, especially if they are good/D1 potential.

At my son's last HS (before moving last year) they had 6 practices a week (on non-game weeks). SIX. The sixth practice was on Sunday afternoons and was 'unofficial' but the coaches were always there and if you missed a practice for any reason you did not play that week. No exceptions. They had a huge roster and burned through players but the kids who were not injured were in insane shape and they were state runner ups two years in a row.

Pretty much every HS sport practices 6 days a week especially if you count weight room work. It's not their responsibility to worry about what a kid is doing outside of team activities. You elitist 'high level' parents dont complain about overuse when your kid has 3-4 practices a week plus private training on off days then 2 games on the weekend for club soccer. It's your choice to let them play on 2 teams. You wouldn't want the club to decrease activity because it's your priority. Why would the HS decrease when it is their priority

Quick story: my DD22 joined a coed rec soccer team for fun, fitness and to meet other friends her age. First game she played she got a concussion-a huge male player (teammate) decided to interrupt her play - fell into her and knocked her down.

It’s just too competitive.

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone tried addressing the crazy expectations of the high school coaches with the administration?

Such as?

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you’ve got a chip in your shoulder. Sorry your kid got hurt.

We just had a girl have an overuse injury in our team. She plays - rec lacrosse, 2 travel basketball teams, rec soccer and our second team at our age group for our ECNL club. Club takes precedence, but there are weekend days when she leaves our soccer game and has two more games lined up.

I don’t think you can make generalizations. Some are overuse, some are covering for weaker players (or, seen different, someone who can’t stick to their position and ball hogs).

This is the fault of the over zealous parents who think their kid is a multi-sport super star. Any kid who has an "overuse" injury is being pushed by the parents. Parents have the responsibility to take care of their kids and force their kids to have proper recovery time. Recovery doesn't equal a good night's sleep. 1-2 days off after intense training is also needed.

Has anyone tried addressing the crazy expectations of the high school coaches with the administration?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overuse. Kids who play HS and Club are doing double practices 2-3 times a week.

Most clubs let them have the spring off

Then they do crazy two a days with HS geography teacher coach

Teacher had ours doing 4-hour tryouts 4 days in a row in 97 degree+ heat. 2mile same day as beep test, then scrimmaging non-stop. Kids throwing up. At least 50% of the team was injured before the first game. My kid seriously fkd up his groin/hip (was growing at the time of this insanity) and was out a full year.

They also practiced 5-6 days a week too, and more team injuries the first month. Multiple games a week, no days off.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overuse. Kids who play HS and Club are doing double practices 2-3 times a week.

Most clubs let them have the spring off

Then they do crazy two a days with HS geography teacher coach

Anonymous wrote:Overuse. Kids who play HS and Club are doing double practices 2-3 times a week.

Most clubs let them have the spring off

Anonymous wrote:Overuse is from the HS schedule/training, too -- for my kid this year ... 3 practices and 2 games a week (which is more than club). That's a grind. Also, the wide differences in level, lax referring + 80 min games lead to on the field injuries. That's why I don't blame those who skip HS altogether, especially if they are good/D1 potential.

At my son's last HS (before moving last year) they had 6 practices a week (on non-game weeks). SIX. The sixth practice was on Sunday afternoons and was 'unofficial' but the coaches were always there and if you missed a practice for any reason you did not play that week. No exceptions. They had a huge roster and burned through players but the kids who were not injured were in insane shape and they were state runner ups two years in a row.

Anonymous wrote:It’s inexperienced players (non travel players) over compensating or getting frustrated and making hard or dirty fouls.

My dad wouldn’t let my brother play with non-skilled players prior to college (non soccer players or very little training) for risk of injury. My brother was on a full-ride and played pro.

When you play with those that can’t control their bodies and don’t know the proper way to tackle—or the rules it is a disaster waiting to happen. Knees, ankles, back, etc….

Sounds like the HS players who don't do anything else besides high school parents blaming overuse to get their kid playing time on the high school team. It's a bunch of BS and deflecting the responsibility due to envy. There frequent complains also get D1 level athletes kicked off team. Pathetic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s inexperienced players (non travel players) over compensating or getting frustrated and making hard or dirty fouls.

Our large public HS doesn't have any non-travel players/inexperienced players even make the team.

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