F8; no issues with Christian and what he’s doing. He is absolutely great with positive energy and that is something that is for sure needed for younger kids. However, it’s a highlight reel factory showcasing the same kids IG. I wish the reels for his program would showcase his loyal bottom 1st team/second teamers coming out and they’re progress. My kid can show up not coming in months and make the reel. Read that how you wish on how it looks.

FC; with Kevin and Cris you are not going to get the participation ribbon. It’s straight business to make the kids better, and my kid has no issues being called out on things to make them better. They also pair with Elmer and FTA which is highly underrated in this area as a training enhancer.

All of these are businesses in the end, and different models. I don’t do any of these consistently as things are pricey, and you can do a lot on your own with YouTube, cones and a soccer field. However, if i were to choose it would be FC/FTA.

Anonymous wrote:We've had good experiences with both Capstone and False 8, but I do agree that False 8 is not the easiest to get into. That said, I do like False 8's efforts to motivate its players in a positive manner, rather than places like FC Training that can at times provide very derogatory and destructive feedback.

You drove up onto the sidewalk to throw FC Training under the bus on this one. But I think you’re in the ballpark. FC Training wasn’t trying to motivate young players as much as they were harping on them to try harder.

These businesses need to understand that they need to get the young kids to buy into the program in order to motivate them to want to comeback over and over again. False8 does this the best in our experience. My kid feels good going back to False8 over FC.

At FC, they were trying to convince me, as a parent, to come to training. At False8, they convinced my 10 year old directly.

We've had good experiences with both Capstone and False 8, but I do agree that False 8 is not the easiest to get into. That said, I do like False 8's efforts to motivate its players in a positive manner, rather than places like FC Training that can at times provide very derogatory and destructive feedback.

Capstone is helpful for our DC.

Anonymous wrote:Flase 8 is less like a training program and more like a highlight reel factory. Picture 30+ kids on the court, three coaches trying to manage the chaos, and the head coach filming with one hand and coaching (kind of) with the other. If your kid isn’t already a mini-celebrity, don’t expect much camera time, the same handful of kids are featured over and over on their IG.
Yes, it’s intense but also confusing, especially for beginners. Nobody asked a new kids name, and honestly, I’m not sure they even knew we were there. It’s fast-paced, flashy, and maybe great if you’re chasing clout… but if you’re looking for real coaching and development, this probably isn’t it. Feels more like “content creation” than “skill creation.”

It’s an intense environment and actually a great training if your child wants something challenging but this is also pretty spot on

Anonymous wrote:How does anyone get in touch with False8? Nobody ever answers my emails

They’ve gotten back to me on insta.

How does anyone get in touch with False8? Nobody ever answers my emails

We are also huge fans of Capstone. A huge part of our son’s success in soccer so far is the work at Capstone. They take an active interest in the kids and help them work towards their goals. We also did Futstars and HP Elite but Capstone is by far the best.

Man I appreciate this rationale message. It will get blown over so has to highlight it.

Anonymous wrote:Flase 8 is less like a training program and more like a highlight reel factory. Picture 30+ kids on the court, three coaches trying to manage the chaos, and the head coach filming with one hand and coaching (kind of) with the other. If your kid isn’t already a mini-celebrity, don’t expect much camera time, the same handful of kids are featured over and over on their IG.
Yes, it’s intense but also confusing, especially for beginners. Nobody asked a new kids name, and honestly, I’m not sure they even knew we were there. It’s fast-paced, flashy, and maybe great if you’re chasing clout… but if you’re looking for real coaching and development, this probably isn’t it. Feels more like “content creation” than “skill creation.”

There is so much information available to us that I can't even empathize anymore. You have to do your homework and understand what exactly your kid needs and what each trainer is likely providing. False 8 is high intensity individual training within a group setting (which provides that intensity) for the drop in sessions that you're talking about. Probably the most efficient use of time from a touch count perspective. Perfect for a change of pace from the standing done in a team practice setting. Understand that it is also not necessarily for beginners, but can be if you discard the idea that you're trying to keep up with the rest of the players because this is you vs you... Their futsal program and a few other select sessions focus on more tactical elements. First Touch Aid provides a more attentive session from a teaching standpoint and has sessions that cater to different levels and age groups.

Capstone is going to have a more physical/fitness element which also serves a very important purpose. You get a similar experience at FC training. There is no one size fits all solution, so don't go looking for one as each have their strengths and weaknesses.

I'm a huge fan of Capstone for both group and private training. My DD has been training with them for about two years (group in the winter and private other times) and she has seen HUGE improvement. Has moved up teams both tryout years and I think Capstone has played a role.

I'm a huge fan of Capstone for both group and private training. My DD has been training with them for about two years (group in the winter and private other times) and she has seen HUGE improvement. Has moved up teams both tryout years and I think Capstone has played a role.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Flase 8 is less like a training program and more like a highlight reel factory. Picture 30+ kids on the court, three coaches trying to manage the chaos, and the head coach filming with one hand and coaching (kind of) with the other. If your kid isn’t already a mini-celebrity, don’t expect much camera time, the same handful of kids are featured over and over on their IG.
Yes, it’s intense but also confusing, especially for beginners. Nobody asked a new kids name, and honestly, I’m not sure they even knew we were there. It’s fast-paced, flashy, and maybe great if you’re chasing clout… but if you’re looking for real coaching and development, this probably isn’t it. Feels more like “content creation” than “skill creation.”

Maybe you have to pay extra for the content?

I disagree with this one. Think they have a specific goal of creating players who are intimidating and the training environment pushes toward that goal. For sure, new kids get lost in the shuffle with such a large class but for under $50 it's a pretty good deal. Think it's worth it to note that the sessions are intense which isn't something you see at most training facilities. It's kind of refreshing. My strong and fast kid was intimidated by some of the younger kids in the highlight reels. She said one young lady passed with the strength of a grown man :p

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Anonymous wrote:Those who have been to either or both, would you recommend for private or group training? Mid-level 2015 travel boy.

We have done 6+ sessions each.

Both are very good and will help a bunch. Both have gaps.

False8
+Fitness & Cardio
+Intensity
+Highly Skilled Kids
+Longer Sessions
+Decent Availability
+Decent Price Point ($40-45)
+No long term commitments
+Motivational Speeches
-Sloppy Reps tolerated/ unnoticed
-Lots of kids, 40 Kids -But 4 Coaches
-Hot, Humid Environments

Capstone
+Fitness and Strength
+Skill Groupings
+Smaller Groups (10 kids) 1 Coach
+Tacos and Beer Next Door in Arlington
+Controlled Climate
+More Learning and Some Fun Games
+More watchful Coaching
-Low Reps/ Weekly changes to skills programs =inconsistent results
-Less availability
-Pushes Pricier Training Packages

But, my kid has liked both very much and has improved with both. But my kid is getting more fitness with False8.
We would do either again.

This is very accurate from our experience. If False 8 was easier to get into and not always when practice was happening I would invest in False 8. Pushed DD out of her comfort zone and the small kids in this group are intimidating Capstone is great too but much pricier. Excellent for winter training too with it's facility.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those who have been to either or both, would you recommend for private or group training? Mid-level 2015 travel boy.

We have done 6+ sessions each.

Both are very good and will help a bunch. Both have gaps.

False8
+Fitness & Cardio
+Intensity
+Highly Skilled Kids
+Longer Sessions
+Decent Availability
+Decent Price Point ($40-45)
+No long term commitments
+Motivational Speeches
-Sloppy Reps tolerated/ unnoticed
-Lots of kids, 40 Kids -But 4 Coaches
-Hot, Humid Environments

Capstone
+Fitness and Strength
+Skill Groupings
+Smaller Groups (10 kids) 1 Coach
+Tacos and Beer Next Door in Arlington
+Controlled Climate
+More Learning and Some Fun Games
+More watchful Coaching
-Low Reps/ Weekly changes to skills programs =inconsistent results
-Less availability
-Pushes Pricier Training Packages

But, my kid has liked both very much and has improved with both. But my kid is getting more fitness with False8.
We would do either again.

Tacos and beer next door is key, tbh

It's actually in Falls Church, not Arlington. But I agree!