Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The proposal is 10,000 acres for development purposes.

The feds own around 600,000,000 acres of land. This is a nothing burger.

No, it is not a nothingburger. It's just the start.

It was a bipartisan issue in 2024 when Biden was floating the same concept.

Who do we think they'll sell that land to?

My first guess is Russia.
Second guess is Musk.
Third guess is Israel.

Anonymous wrote:The proposal is 10,000 acres for development purposes.

The feds own around 600,000,000 acres of land. This is a nothing burger.

No, it is not a nothingburger. It's just the start.

Woah woah woah!!!

In 2024 the Biden admin was discussing selling federal land to developers to build housing!

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/09/white-house-gop-housing-federal-land-00170616

Anonymous wrote:who would they sell it to?

Chinese and Saudi investors.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congress sells chunk of the electromagnetic spectrum all the time. How else do you think your cel phone works?

The US sells access to public lands for logging, ranching, mining, oil and gas drilling, fishing, ect.

The govt sells stuff all the time.


You people are reactionary idiots.

The US derives income from public lands (and there is room for debate on the wisdom of some of how this is done) but basically they want to sell off the principle.

Maybe I will just take all the income from my 401ks and IRA and have a great time for a year or two.

Agree - government leases spectrum and grazing rights and logging rights and so on. This generates economic activity, and in a fair way, while also generating revenue for the government. Just selling it outright, and likely to insiders, breaks everything.

Anonymous wrote:Congress sells chunk of the electromagnetic spectrum all the time. How else do you think your cel phone works?

The US sells access to public lands for logging, ranching, mining, oil and gas drilling, fishing, ect.

The govt sells stuff all the time.


You people are reactionary idiots.

The US derives income from public lands (and there is room for debate on the wisdom of some of how this is done) but basically they want to sell off the principle.

Maybe I will just take all the income from my 401ks and IRA and have a great time for a year or two.

I forget who, but there's some major GOP figure who had some video showing up on social media and in those sponsored parts of news websites about the secret trust fund the US has that nobody knows about. I was going to ignore it but did a little bit of poking, and basically they are talking about the value of all the minerals (including oil, gas, coal) in federal land and how much it is worth per person. The pitch is geared to make everyone think we can all just grab our piece of the treasure chest and go out and spend it. It's like the old story about how bad it is to let an 18 year old come into a lot of money. Or like this F Scott FItzgerald novel I was assigned in college (The Beautiful and the Damned, I think)--young couple of leisure spending the principle expecting the old uncle to leave the everything he has, except he shows up one day when they've been carousing and he happens to be a moralist and writes them out of his will (in the end, they sue, and they win, but by then the husband has gone insane because of his bad decisions).

But it's ok. Donald will put all US assets into his crypto and we'll all be fine.

Not surprising that Nevada is in on this.
When the US was surveyed, it was decided that Nevada was just too impossible a place to survey it in the same manner that the rest of the country was (when territory was being turned into states). Land that was handed to the Nevada government turned into a snakepit of corruption (I read about this during the Bundy standoff because of general curiosity about federal lands in Nevada).
As the US began closing the frontier, one thing that happened was that one section out of every 36 (i.e. one section per township) was designated school trust lands. Income from trust lands supports public education in western states (i.e. what was the west at the end of the civil war, so not just the far west). Nevada squandered theirs via corrupt sales involving public officials and their friends.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/education/opportunity-lost-nevadas-school-trust-lands-sold-off-over-150-years-1905104/

They're dismantling our country so fast, so unilaterally and without process, without everyday people even noticing because we're all just trying to survive, and with about 40% of the country cheering them on. It's a horrific twilight zone that we're in.

Anonymous wrote:Federal government owns over 90% of the land in some of these states.

And, they lease huge amounts of it out to ranchers, loggers, oil and gas industry, minerals industry for sweetheart deals. They make it available for recreation and other uses which generates significant amounts of money for the local communities.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The proposal is 10,000 acres for development purposes.

The feds own around 600,000,000 acres of land. This is a nothing burger.

It's OUR land they intend to sell, idiot. They're selling our country, yours and mine, to billionaires. That's a nothing burger to you? Do you have kids? Do you want them to live in company towns?

+1
Yep. And they can use the billionaires' crypto as their main currency... to make food purchases or starve to death.

I’m sure Escalante National Monument will fetch a high price for development. Everton wants to commute eight hours to Provo.

It is so sickening. I am not surprised, but I am horrified nonetheless. And it's so stupid. Once precious resources are gone, they are gone and they will never return, not in our great-grandchildren's lifetimes.