Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 21:47     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Had a friend who talked about it constantly from the time her kids were born. It was a huge part of who she was as a mother. I just saw it as a means to and end so not a big deal for me. I only told my DC when DC took an ethics class in HS that involved a discussion of the ethics of IVF and other similar topics. DC did not seem to care (likely because so many in DC's friend group already knew they were IVF babies).


Hmm that suggests that I should tell them earlier and they probably won’t care. I’m surprised anyone things IVF is unethical at this point though, that’s so backwards.


Most people don't think IVF is unethical. People think selecting for IQ, sex, and other traits is unethical.


Regulating IVF at all is a very slippery slope, that will ultimately harm families and prevent people from having children. The line between medical and non-medical genetic screening is very fuzzy in many circumstances. Is it unethical for someone screen for a hereditary disease that causes people to die in their 30s? most people would say no. What about a gene that triples your risk for Alzheimer’s in old age? IMO, these decisions are best left to individual families because the government making that decision for people is even worse.


There are many things in life that are legal but nevertheless unethical. This is one of them.


Alright you do you. I respectfully disagree. Increasing the odds that’s my kids are gainfully employed and have a longer life expectancy is not unethical.


And then what do you do when they don't live up to their expected "potential"? How are they supposed to feel about it?
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 21:37     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.


Oh really? Name them and cite the evidence behind them. And then go out and find something productive to do with your life other than trolling.

NP. This seems to be latest bandwagon for the wealthy:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/01/opinion/ivf-gene-selection-fertility.html?unlocked_article_code=1.FU8.Pn-E.gU7a6PzjK1_k&smid=url-share
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 21:36     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.


So you threw away the low IQ embryos?
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 21:35     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.



Snake oil. Fools and their money…….


It’s not snake oil, it’s a weighted coin flip. Better than just letting things be completely random and hoping for the best. Polygenic selection has already been validated in other species and farmers have been using it for over a decade.


Whatever you need to tell yourself. 😂
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 21:16     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.


Oh really? Name them and cite the evidence behind them. And then go out and find something productive to do with your life other than trolling.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 21:14     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Tell them from the start. I would not tell them about the IQ issue, that would be upsetting to anyone.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 21:03     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Had a friend who talked about it constantly from the time her kids were born. It was a huge part of who she was as a mother. I just saw it as a means to and end so not a big deal for me. I only told my DC when DC took an ethics class in HS that involved a discussion of the ethics of IVF and other similar topics. DC did not seem to care (likely because so many in DC's friend group already knew they were IVF babies).


Hmm that suggests that I should tell them earlier and they probably won’t care. I’m surprised anyone things IVF is unethical at this point though, that’s so backwards.


Most people don't think IVF is unethical. People think selecting for IQ, sex, and other traits is unethical.


Regulating IVF at all is a very slippery slope, that will ultimately harm families and prevent people from having children. The line between medical and non-medical genetic screening is very fuzzy in many circumstances. Is it unethical for someone screen for a hereditary disease that causes people to die in their 30s? most people would say no. What about a gene that triples your risk for Alzheimer’s in old age? IMO, these decisions are best left to individual families because the government making that decision for people is even worse.


There are many things in life that are legal but nevertheless unethical. This is one of them.


Alright you do you. I respectfully disagree. Increasing the odds that’s my kids are gainfully employed and have a longer life expectancy is not unethical.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 20:31     Subject: Re:Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:I always told mine especially as they had a lost twin and I had pics of them in the petri dish which is kind of cool.


That would make me sad. I wouldn't want to know about that.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 20:20     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Had a friend who talked about it constantly from the time her kids were born. It was a huge part of who she was as a mother. I just saw it as a means to and end so not a big deal for me. I only told my DC when DC took an ethics class in HS that involved a discussion of the ethics of IVF and other similar topics. DC did not seem to care (likely because so many in DC's friend group already knew they were IVF babies).


Hmm that suggests that I should tell them earlier and they probably won’t care. I’m surprised anyone things IVF is unethical at this point though, that’s so backwards.


Most people don't think IVF is unethical. People think selecting for IQ, sex, and other traits is unethical.


Regulating IVF at all is a very slippery slope, that will ultimately harm families and prevent people from having children. The line between medical and non-medical genetic screening is very fuzzy in many circumstances. Is it unethical for someone screen for a hereditary disease that causes people to die in their 30s? most people would say no. What about a gene that triples your risk for Alzheimer’s in old age? IMO, these decisions are best left to individual families because the government making that decision for people is even worse.


There are many things in life that are legal but nevertheless unethical. This is one of them.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 19:34     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.



Snake oil. Fools and their money…….


It’s not snake oil, it’s a weighted coin flip. Better than just letting things be completely random and hoping for the best. Polygenic selection has already been validated in other species and farmers have been using it for over a decade.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 19:14     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.

Snake oil. Fools and their money…….
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 19:14     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There are companies that run polygenic scores for IQ on embryo DNA data. A few people have already done this and I’m one of these people. This practice is not common yet, but will likely become more common over time. This is a serious question and I’m asking for answers on what age it’s appropriate to tell the kids about it.


I guess whenever you can afford therapy for them.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 19:14     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:Op get a life and stop trolling. Do share the “scientific method” available to assess the IQ of a fetus.

There’s some newfangled company that Elon’s a big fan of.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 18:34     Subject: Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Had a friend who talked about it constantly from the time her kids were born. It was a huge part of who she was as a mother. I just saw it as a means to and end so not a big deal for me. I only told my DC when DC took an ethics class in HS that involved a discussion of the ethics of IVF and other similar topics. DC did not seem to care (likely because so many in DC's friend group already knew they were IVF babies).


Hmm that suggests that I should tell them earlier and they probably won’t care. I’m surprised anyone things IVF is unethical at this point though, that’s so backwards.


Most people don't think IVF is unethical. People think selecting for IQ, sex, and other traits is unethical.


Regulating IVF at all is a very slippery slope, that will ultimately harm families and prevent people from having children. The line between medical and non-medical genetic screening is very fuzzy in many circumstances. Is it unethical for someone screen for a hereditary disease that causes people to die in their 30s? most people would say no. What about a gene that triples your risk for Alzheimer’s in old age? IMO, these decisions are best left to individual families because the government making that decision for people is even worse.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 18:19     Subject: Re:Telling My Kids About Their IVF Story??

I always told mine especially as they had a lost twin and I had pics of them in the petri dish which is kind of cool.