Anonymous
05/06/2025 18:47
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked, . . .
Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah. . .
Seriously? . . .
What in the world?
I know right? CRAZY TALK! Biden is as sharp as ever!!
Is Biden the president? No? So who the eff cares?
Because the media covering for Biden on so many occasions; Covid was from a wet market; Biden is sharp as a tack, etc.., is why people don’t trust the media and believe it is highly biased.
Until these items are addressed in full, they will be seen as irrelevant partisan hacks.
That same MSM that "covered for Biden" is who ran 4 and 5 headlines every single day about Biden's disastrous debate even though there was nothing new to report on that front, they did it every single day until Biden dropped out of the race.
That same MSM media is currently sanewashing and ignoring most of Trump's incoherent and ignorant comments, his failures in policies and presidential actions, and so on.
To say they are biased in what they choose to report on, how and when, would be accurate. But to just dismiss them as "partisan hacks" kind of misses the point considering they did a hatchet job on Biden and have been giving Trump far more wide berth than objective media should.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 18:42
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked, . . .
Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah. . .
Seriously? . . .
What in the world?
I know right? CRAZY TALK! Biden is as sharp as ever!!
Maybe not, but it’s months later. Haven’t they moved on? Aren’t there other important issue to discuss rather than someone who is no longer president and his sons laptop?
Just ignore the media's bias and lying on those issues. Move on and assume there is no bias and lying on what they say now.
Which media claimed that Hunter's laptop contained smoking gun evidence of millions of dollars of corruption and foreign influence peddling, along with child porn and other things?
The "lying" MSM? Or right wing media like New York Post, Daily Caller, Newsmax, Washington Examiner, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, FOX and others?
It was the right wing media - which you seem to believe told the true story, as opposed to the "lying MSM."
But here's the thing - the laptop was thoroughly investigated and contained none of those things. The only incriminating thing to come out of the laptop was that Hunter had a drug problem and didn't disclose it on his gun application. What's more, it was proven that a former FBI informant fabricated the claims about bribery, which was correctly reported on by MSM outlets like ABC News and The Hill, but not by the lying right wing media outlets that to this day still seem to have you convinced that they were the ones telling the truth about the laptop, when they weren't.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 17:33
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Why is there a whole thread based on OP's self-admitted braindead friend?
Anonymous
05/06/2025 17:05
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked, . . .
Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah. . .
Seriously? . . .
What in the world?
I know right? CRAZY TALK! Biden is as sharp as ever!!
Is Biden the president? No? So who the eff cares?
Because the media covering for Biden on so many occasions; Covid was from a wet market; Biden is sharp as a tack, etc.., is why people don’t trust the media and believe it is highly biased.
Until these items are addressed in full, they will be seen as irrelevant partisan hacks.
LOL
Now they're giving themselves awards over that "journalism".
Anonymous
05/06/2025 17:00
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked to some publications he views as ‘fact based’ and focused on ‘issues important to center right readers’. He claims the MSM (‘dinosaur’ media) slanders this ‘new media’ by calling it ‘right wing’ and that he can’t ever forgive Obama for some quote he made about ‘guns and bibles’.
Again, I felt open to the idea of some bias so I went to these new media sites- daily caller, daily signal.
It was mostly a pile of complete garbage rehashing of alleged Dem failures. Hunter laptop, Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah.
Seriously? This is what these ‘fact based’ publications are focused on? This is important news? What in the world?
I think that this a very interesting question and debate, and I have a lot of issues with how the MSM is handling the Trump administration, but it doesn't sound like the discussion you were having was very informed or productive. There are respected and reliable right of center media sources bit Daily Caller and most especially the Daily Signal are not among them.
https://adfontesmedia.com/ is super debatable but it is a serious endeavor and a good place to start.
I appreciate that it tries to take into account how fact-based vs analysis-based an organization might be. This is not good-bad, of course, only that the farther you get from just relaying of facts (AP, Reuters), the more chance of editorializing the truth. Then again, most of us like and want informed writers to synthesize material, to investigate, to present background info. So, again, these are interesting topic of debate.
I also think it's interesting when you look at the Ad Fontes chart that takes into account left/right and reliability/lack of reliability, that one doesn't get any sense of the level of of the writing. Is it super accessible? Is it written for an educated audience?
In any case, good question.
Where is the NYT on this list?
Welp, considering their zoomed in cropped photo whining about Trump wearing a blue suit to the Pope's funeral and never showing all the others at the funeral who did the same, I'd say it's pretty low.
Everyone knows where they stand.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 16:54
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked, . . .
Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah. . .
Seriously? . . .
What in the world?
I know right? CRAZY TALK! Biden is as sharp as ever!!
Maybe not, but it’s months later. Haven’t they moved on? Aren’t there other important issue to discuss rather than someone who is no longer president and his sons laptop?
Not when you lose credibility in the face of the obvious.
See Uri Berliner, who left NPR "How we lost America's Trusy"
Anonymous
05/06/2025 16:49
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked, . . .
Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah. . .
Seriously? . . .
What in the world?
I know right? CRAZY TALK! Biden is as sharp as ever!!
Is Biden the president? No? So who the eff cares?
Because the media covering for Biden on so many occasions; Covid was from a wet market; Biden is sharp as a tack, etc.., is why people don’t trust the media and believe it is highly biased.
Until these items are addressed in full, they will be seen as irrelevant partisan hacks.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 16:16
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty much all media is a complete joke now. Legacy media, new media, left, right, all of it. It’s all garbage now, for myriad reasons.
- a 30+ year photojournalist
Yes, the media has problems. But how does that merit making it even shittier, which is what MAGA wants to do to our media? Why not actually work to fix the problems rather than burn it all down?
The media destroyed their own credibility. They’re responsible for what has happened to them, not Trump.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 15:48
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm always confused that the right claims the MSM is biased, but yet also cannot offer any alternate source. I mean, Fox News is a joke and also the best they've got to offer?
FWIW, I read National Review sometimes which is conservative, but it's also still more opinion than basic factual.
This. The right wing wants to sow distrust in legacy media, yet the right wing "alternative" is even less fact-based, and even more dishonest, untrustworthy and biased than the legacy media.
The point is to make one side meet impossible standards (and criticize them severely when they fall short), while the other side does not claim to meet any standards at all.
It's supposed to be a paradox that dissuades Joe Public from having any standards at all and give up their liberty & rights to an elite clique.
NP. This right here.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 14:34
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked to some publications he views as ‘fact based’ and focused on ‘issues important to center right readers’. He claims the MSM (‘dinosaur’ media) slanders this ‘new media’ by calling it ‘right wing’ and that he can’t ever forgive Obama for some quote he made about ‘guns and bibles’.
Again, I felt open to the idea of some bias so I went to these new media sites- daily caller, daily signal.
It was mostly a pile of complete garbage rehashing of alleged Dem failures. Hunter laptop, Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah.
Seriously? This is what these ‘fact based’ publications are focused on? This is important news? What in the world?
I think that this a very interesting question and debate, and I have a lot of issues with how the MSM is handling the Trump administration, but it doesn't sound like the discussion you were having was very informed or productive. There are respected and reliable right of center media sources bit Daily Caller and most especially the Daily Signal are not among them.
https://adfontesmedia.com/ is super debatable but it is a serious endeavor and a good place to start.
I appreciate that it tries to take into account how fact-based vs analysis-based an organization might be. This is not good-bad, of course, only that the farther you get from just relaying of facts (AP, Reuters), the more chance of editorializing the truth. Then again, most of us like and want informed writers to synthesize material, to investigate, to present background info. So, again, these are interesting topic of debate.
I also think it's interesting when you look at the Ad Fontes chart that takes into account left/right and reliability/lack of reliability, that one doesn't get any sense of the level of of the writing. Is it super accessible? Is it written for an educated audience?
In any case, good question.
Where is the NYT on this list?
Anonymous
05/06/2025 14:34
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Pretty much all media is a complete joke now. Legacy media, new media, left, right, all of it. It’s all garbage now, for myriad reasons.
- a 30+ year photojournalist
Yes, the media has problems. But how does that merit making it even shittier, which is what MAGA wants to do to our media? Why not actually work to fix the problems rather than burn it all down?
Anonymous
05/06/2025 14:28
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
No don't ignore or forget that. But why let them distract you with old news you like to hear about? Hearing criticisms of Biden has become your soma.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked, . . .
Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah. . .
Seriously? . . .
What in the world?
I know right? CRAZY TALK! Biden is as sharp as ever!!
Maybe not, but it’s months later. Haven’t they moved on? Aren’t there other important issue to discuss rather than someone who is no longer president and his sons laptop?
Just ignore the media's bias and lying on those issues. Move on and assume there is no bias and lying on what they say now.
I challenge you all to think about how YOUR news sources are lying to you now, just as you THOSE new sources did then.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 13:38
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked, . . .
Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah. . .
Seriously? . . .
What in the world?
I know right? CRAZY TALK! Biden is as sharp as ever!!
The NYT took him down while completely ignoring Trump’s age and mental decline and other, more serious news. They engaged in circular logic, then pilled their readers and printed it as further “proof.” They are the problem. I agree MSM is trash.
Seriously, after watching Spotlight it’s clear that paper’s have their own interests that aren’t aligned with the public good.
https://css.seas.upenn.edu/new-york-times-a-case-study-in-inconsistent-narrative-selection-and-framing-that-tends-to-favor-republicans/
Anonymous
05/06/2025 13:28
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Good to see Alex Jones still holding it down on the bottom right
Anonymous
05/06/2025 13:17
Subject: Industry peer sent article decrying the MSMs biased reporting
Anonymous wrote:- I don’t completely disagree that there is some bias- but then linked to some publications he views as ‘fact based’ and focused on ‘issues important to center right readers’. He claims the MSM (‘dinosaur’ media) slanders this ‘new media’ by calling it ‘right wing’ and that he can’t ever forgive Obama for some quote he made about ‘guns and bibles’.
Again, I felt open to the idea of some bias so I went to these new media sites- daily caller, daily signal.
It was mostly a pile of complete garbage rehashing of alleged Dem failures. Hunter laptop, Biden wasn’t sharp as a tack, Biden was involved in hunters crooked business dealings, blah blah.
Seriously? This is what these ‘fact based’ publications are focused on? This is important news? What in the world?
I think that this a very interesting question and debate, and I have a lot of issues with how the MSM is handling the Trump administration, but it doesn't sound like the discussion you were having was very informed or productive. There are respected and reliable right of center media sources bit Daily Caller and most especially the Daily Signal are not among them.
https://adfontesmedia.com/ is super debatable but it is a serious endeavor and a good place to start.
I appreciate that it tries to take into account how fact-based vs analysis-based an organization might be. This is not good-bad, of course, only that the farther you get from just relaying of facts (AP, Reuters), the more chance of editorializing the truth. Then again, most of us like and want informed writers to synthesize material, to investigate, to present background info. So, again, these are interesting topic of debate.
I also think it's interesting when you look at the Ad Fontes chart that takes into account left/right and reliability/lack of reliability, that one doesn't get any sense of the level of of the writing. Is it super accessible? Is it written for an educated audience?
In any case, good question.