Anonymous wrote:There is a hook. You just do not know it.

+1 And she probably submitted no test scores (if they are even accurate, which they probably aren't.)

Anonymous wrote:There are thousands of full pay applicants to Penn every year who get denied with stats much better the ones OP is relaying.

+1

Penn has lost its luster for many, and $10 million from donors. If you are full pay they may have snapped that up.

There is a hook. You just do not know it.

How on earth would OP know another kid in school's SAT scores?

Anonymous wrote:There are thousands of full pay applicants to Penn every year who get denied with stats much better the ones OP is relaying.

+1000 Seriously, full pay is very, very common. Everyone I know is full pay. It is not like an Ivy has to take a 1200 SAT kid just because they need her $85,000.

Anonymous wrote:Kid at our school got into UPenn RD. 1200 SAT scores and 3s and 4s on APs (although probably test optional, since this was the last year Penn allowed that). Straight As but avoided many of the hardest classes offered at school, not close to highest rigor. Very mid-level ECs. White girl, no hooks. The only minor "hook" we can think of is that she's an artsy humanities major, which they maybe don't get a lot of due to how pre-professional Penn is. She got uniformly rejected by other top tier, mid tier, and low-mid tier schools. She is really unexcited about going to Penn but committed due to lack of other options. Were Penn admissions strange this year?

OP, she has a hook that you don't know about and was probably TO so the school would not know her SAT. It's depressing to see how bad the choices that admissions makes. It's wouldn't be surprising if the girl drops out.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid at our school got into UPenn RD. 1200 SAT scores and 3s and 4s on APs (although probably test optional, since this was the last year Penn allowed that). Straight As but avoided many of the hardest classes offered at school, not close to highest rigor. Very mid-level ECs. White girl, no hooks. The only minor "hook" we can think of is that she's an artsy humanities major, which they maybe don't get a lot of due to how pre-professional Penn is. She got uniformly rejected by other top tier, mid tier, and low-mid tier schools. She is really unexcited about going to Penn but committed due to lack of other options. Were Penn admissions strange this year?

Why would a kid like this even bother applying to an Ivy? A 1200? 3s on AP tests? Makes no sense.

This 1000%! They don't seem like they would fit in or enjoy the experience.

I have a 1200 kid, 3.5UW and they would have been miserable at a school like that. They landed in the 80-100 range and did quite well. But anything more pressure than that and they would have been misearble

There are thousands of full pay applicants to Penn every year who get denied with stats much better the ones OP is relaying.

Anonymous wrote:There is probably a rich donor in her family you don't know about.

Though she did have a fantastic GPA, so there is that. And maybe her teachers wrote glowing letters of rec.

Yeah she's probably a full pay. Penn needed to make more bank. All things being equal, money trumps other stuff. A tiny percentage of need base gets in but is magnified due to media coverage.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the student thinks that U Penn is the same as Penn State.

This! Or the op thinks that penn state is Penn

Or OP, who has no way of knowing this kid's test scores, is taking information provided by unreliable narrators as gospel.

OP is a horrible person.

Who are you in relation to this person? Other than jealous? If you're not her mother, why do you know a single thing about her test scores, classes, rigor, etc.? That's so weird. Be happy for a young woman who probably worked hard (my kid has severe learning issues but very high intelligence--he wasn't even allowed to take the highest rigor classes at his VA private-now he's graduating from a top 20 University that he was accepted to because of his demonstrated high intelligence with a 3.5 GPA and an amazing finance job). Parents and other students who don't know him at all were all talkking about how "unfair" his admission was. It was absolutely sickening. Not a single one of them knew how hard he had to work and what torture school could be for him--despite being smarter than any one of those jerks-like you. Get over it.

Penn has gotten so extremely pre-professional that it probably doesn't appeal to many artsy kids. That might be the hook right there.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the student thinks that U Penn is the same as Penn State.

This! Or the op thinks that penn state is Penn

Or OP, who has no way of knowing this kid's test scores, is taking information provided by unreliable narrators as gospel.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the student thinks that U Penn is the same as Penn State.

This! Or the op thinks that penn state is Penn