Anonymous
04/28/2025 15:25
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Pritzker.
I disagree that we need a moderate. Republicans cast all democrats, moderates or not, as crazy leftist dems. Since moderates are never seen as moderates anyway, let’s put up a candidate that actually IS progressive.
Agreed! The proof for me is the hatred that the GOP had for Bill Clinton, who positioned himself as a centrist. The went after him like rabid dogs despite the fact that he accomplished several things that the GOP would have embraced if he were a Republican:
1)Welfare Reform: He signed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act in 1996, overhauling the welfare system. The reform introduced work requirements, a five-year lifetime limit on federal benefits, and shifted much control to the states through block grants. Clinton aimed to reduce long-term dependency and promote employment, framing the effort as "ending welfare as we know it." Although controversial, the reform was a major bipartisan achievement during his presidency.
2) Balanced Budget: He worked with a Republican Congress to pass the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, which combined spending cuts and tax increases to reduce the federal deficit. By the end of his presidency, the U.S. had achieved a budget surplus for the first time in decades.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 15:19
Subject: Re:Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Pritzker and Beshear are two that come to mind.
Dems historically like Governors and both have their pluses.
But in that case, Walz is the obvious choice.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 15:12
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none of those mentioned. We need moderates, it’s a landslide if you put up a moderate.
We don't need moderates. We tried that. They don't bring out the voters. Republicans will never switch sides. We need to bring out the progressives who won't come out for "basically a Republican"
They will after this circus.
+1
Just as was the case in 2020 and 2024, the very unpopular sitting POTUS will doom the incumbent party in 2028. Wash, rinse, repeat. Dems need to capitalize on the relatively easy 2028 win by electing someone who will be viable when seeking a second term in 2032. No more 80 year olds.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 15:07
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Pritzker would crush Vance.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:53
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none of those mentioned. We need moderates, it’s a landslide if you put up a moderate.
We don't need moderates. We tried that. They don't bring out the voters. Republicans will never switch sides. We need to bring out the progressives who won't come out for "basically a Republican"
They will after this circus.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:52
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none of those mentioned. We need moderates, it’s a landslide if you put up a moderate.
Harris wasn’t a moderate?
Not really no. She was tethered to Biden and his agenda and couldn’t distance herself from it, maybe she didn’t want too but most likely didn’t have the time to. There needs to be some fiscal conservatism, a recognition of realized tax burden, redefining middle class and wealthiest 1% to reflect todays prices and incomes and adjusting taxes accordingly, brining back tax benefits/capping interest and offering civil service to address student loans rather than forgiveness, incentives education in medical careers (nursing, doctors, techs etc. similar to military service) and reform healthcare (eliminate the middle man and standardize pricing) do away with special interest in politics, not allowing DEI and other “hot” topics to take center stage and distract from real issues. Take a firm stance on immigration, it doesn’t have to be tyrannical but show some fortitude in forcing people to adhere to our immigration laws. No one wants what we have now but they also don’t AOC and the thought of a socialist government.
Biden was a moderate. So was Harris. They were doing everything on your list (Biden was admittedly late to find the right balance on immigration). I have no idea what kind of “DEI” policies scared you so but they were never center stage for either.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:48
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none of those mentioned. We need moderates, it’s a landslide if you put up a moderate.
We don't need moderates. We tried that. They don't bring out the voters. Republicans will never switch sides. We need to bring out the progressives who won't come out for "basically a Republican"
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:43
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Osoff. I encourage everyone to start listening to him and researching him.
He's a powerful speaker. He's a good age. I like what he stands for so far.
I could also get behind Buttigieg. However, none of my gay male liberal friends like him. Like, at all, and they say most gay men do not like him. If you can't even count on the gay votes, there's no way you'll carry the nation, IMO. Same.
The Dems need a ticket without a woman as the Presidential nominee. The US is too ass-backwards to elect a female right now or for at least the next 20 years, IMO.
The Dems also need to get off the trans train. They make up less than 2% of the population. They need to broaden their focus to equal human rights for all. If they had ran on that platform with Harris and geared it toward including Palestinians, Harris would have gotten more of the liberal Gen Z vote and possibly won.
He's a powerful speaker. He's a good age. I like what he stands for so far.
I could also get behind Buttigieg. However, none of my gay male liberal friends like him. Like, at all, and they say most gay men do not like him. If you can't even count on the gay votes, there's no way you'll carry the nation, IMO. Same.
The Dems need a ticket without a woman as the Presidential nominee. The US is too ass-backwards to elect a female right now or for at least the next 20 years, IMO.
The Dems also need to get off the trans train. They make up less than 2% of the population. They need to broaden their focus to equal human rights for all. If they had ran on that platform with Harris and geared it toward including Palestinians, Harris would have gotten more of the liberal Gen Z vote and possibly won.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:38
Subject: Re:Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Pritzker and Beshear are two that come to mind.
Dems historically like Governors and both have their pluses.
Dems historically like Governors and both have their pluses.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:32
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none of those mentioned. We need moderates, it’s a landslide if you put up a moderate.
Harris wasn’t a moderate?
Not really no. She was tethered to Biden and his agenda and couldn’t distance herself from it, maybe she didn’t want too but most likely didn’t have the time to. There needs to be some fiscal conservatism, a recognition of realized tax burden, redefining middle class and wealthiest 1% to reflect todays prices and incomes and adjusting taxes accordingly, brining back tax benefits/capping interest and offering civil service to address student loans rather than forgiveness, incentives education in medical careers (nursing, doctors, techs etc. similar to military service) and reform healthcare (eliminate the middle man and standardize pricing) do away with special interest in politics, not allowing DEI and other “hot” topics to take center stage and distract from real issues. Take a firm stance on immigration, it doesn’t have to be tyrannical but show some fortitude in forcing people to adhere to our immigration laws. No one wants what we have now but they also don’t AOC and the thought of a socialist government.
Nicely put.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:25
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
+1Anonymous wrote:Pritzker.
I disagree that we need a moderate. Republicans cast all democrats, moderates or not, as crazy leftist dems. Since moderates are never seen as moderates anyway, let’s put up a candidate that actually IS progressive.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:17
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none of those mentioned. We need moderates, it’s a landslide if you put up a moderate.
I agree, but my sibling strongly disagrees, and oddly, it is creating an issue between us. It is a progressive or bust. If I suggest anyone else, he pulls out the daggers. Ridiculous. Anyway, I suspect I’m in the minority. The names I suggested were thrown about a lot last year, so I started with them.
When a legitimate leader emerges as the eventual nominee, you'll stop over analyzing where exactly they fall on the political spectrum. Obama and Clinton aren't remembered for being moderates or progressives. They were moderate in their stances on some issues and more progressive on others. They were strong leaders with likable personalities and many of us have forgotten how these are the two most important traits since we haven't had a leader with these skills since January 2017.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:17
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none of those mentioned. We need moderates, it’s a landslide if you put up a moderate.
Harris wasn’t a moderate?
Not really no. She was tethered to Biden and his agenda and couldn’t distance herself from it, maybe she didn’t want too but most likely didn’t have the time to. There needs to be some fiscal conservatism, a recognition of realized tax burden, redefining middle class and wealthiest 1% to reflect todays prices and incomes and adjusting taxes accordingly, brining back tax benefits/capping interest and offering civil service to address student loans rather than forgiveness, incentives education in medical careers (nursing, doctors, techs etc. similar to military service) and reform healthcare (eliminate the middle man and standardize pricing) do away with special interest in politics, not allowing DEI and other “hot” topics to take center stage and distract from real issues. Take a firm stance on immigration, it doesn’t have to be tyrannical but show some fortitude in forcing people to adhere to our immigration laws. No one wants what we have now but they also don’t AOC and the thought of a socialist government.
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:03
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pritzker.
I disagree that we need a moderate. Republicans cast all democrats, moderates or not, as crazy leftist dems. Since moderates are never seen as moderates anyway, let’s put up a candidate that actually IS progressive.
Thank you!!
Even though sadly there will be no real
Midterms or 2028 election. It’s over
Is this your way of getting people to vote or to battle some other way?
Anonymous
04/28/2025 14:02
Subject: Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?
Anonymous wrote:The guy from CT
Murphy
This!