These agents are going to end up being shot by a good guy with a gun eventually. It is beyond stupid to carry on this way.

Don’t interfere with the secret police or Fuhrer Don will be cranky.

Why wouldn't these cases be dismissed with prejudice?

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Anonymous wrote:The article said they questioned the agents. Questioning plain clothes officers is now a criminal offense?!

My thought exactly. I watched the video and one of the agents was a middle-aged guy with a long ponytail, kind of scruffy looking, and a loose plaid shirt. No way did he look like an LEO. He looked like a rando off the street. If I saw someone looking like they were being abducted by a random looking person in street clothes, I would try to help as well.

The agents provided proper identification to the bailiffs in the courthouse prior to the arrest.

According to Virginia public radio people in the courthouse allegedly noticed an ICE agent sitting in the courtroom and two others outside in the lobby.

“At some point, it became pretty clear that there were three people there that were not normally there, and that something was going to happen, although they never identified themselves,”

According to The Daily Progress the two women who obstructed the agents “appear to be volunteers with the Immigration Rapid Response Hotline, a public service promoted by several civil rights and immigrant support groups. A witness to the Tuesday raid told The Daily Progress that the hotline had been called when the ICE agents were spotted.”

These women were called to intervene in a federal immigration arrest. They knew who these men were. Game over. FAFO.

https://www.vpm.org/news/2025-04-23/albemarle-courthouse-ice-raid-nicholas-reppucci-teodoro-dominguez-rodriguez

https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/crime-courts/article_e6ce6e4a-4161-476f-8d28-94150a891092.html

The first story you posted contradicts what you're saying. ICE claimed they provided ID, but an individual from the Public Defender's Office said they didn't. The individual who is "clearly hiding his identity" sounds like the guy who's wearing a balaclava.

“None of us saw any identification, any badges, and no one said they had a warrant, showed a warrant, or identified themselves as law enforcement. And one, as seen in the video, is clearly hiding his identity,” Reppucci said Wednesday morning.

The agents identified themselves to the bailiffs who are in charge of security for the courthouse. In the video they identify themselves as officers from Homeland Security while being unlawfully touched and interfered with by activists called to obstruct a federal immigration arrest.

We'll see what happens in court.

TBH, the two "officers" would not strike anyone as LEO. One had a scruffy ponytail/bun and a baggy pink shirt over jeans, and the other guy was wearing a balaclava and carrying a large backpack with a water bottle in it--hardly serious or imposing figures. I don't care what they said they were--they don't look the part. ICE is pulling all kinds of people into service from other branches of government. There will be more incidences where people that do not look like LEO but claim to be LEO will accost foreigners in public settings and witnesses will be concerned and question their identity. Maybe tell the ponytail guy to cut his hair and look more the part?

The feds are going to make an example of these people that interfere with ICE. People say you can indict a ham sandwich and the federal government has a very strong conviction rate.

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Anonymous wrote:The article said they questioned the agents. Questioning plain clothes officers is now a criminal offense?!

My thought exactly. I watched the video and one of the agents was a middle-aged guy with a long ponytail, kind of scruffy looking, and a loose plaid shirt. No way did he look like an LEO. He looked like a rando off the street. If I saw someone looking like they were being abducted by a random looking person in street clothes, I would try to help as well.

The agents provided proper identification to the bailiffs in the courthouse prior to the arrest.

According to Virginia public radio people in the courthouse allegedly noticed an ICE agent sitting in the courtroom and two others outside in the lobby.

“At some point, it became pretty clear that there were three people there that were not normally there, and that something was going to happen, although they never identified themselves,”

According to The Daily Progress the two women who obstructed the agents “appear to be volunteers with the Immigration Rapid Response Hotline, a public service promoted by several civil rights and immigrant support groups. A witness to the Tuesday raid told The Daily Progress that the hotline had been called when the ICE agents were spotted.”

These women were called to intervene in a federal immigration arrest. They knew who these men were. Game over. FAFO.

https://www.vpm.org/news/2025-04-23/albemarle-courthouse-ice-raid-nicholas-reppucci-teodoro-dominguez-rodriguez

https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/crime-courts/article_e6ce6e4a-4161-476f-8d28-94150a891092.html

The first story you posted contradicts what you're saying. ICE claimed they provided ID, but an individual from the Public Defender's Office said they didn't. The individual who is "clearly hiding his identity" sounds like the guy who's wearing a balaclava.

“None of us saw any identification, any badges, and no one said they had a warrant, showed a warrant, or identified themselves as law enforcement. And one, as seen in the video, is clearly hiding his identity,” Reppucci said Wednesday morning.

The agents identified themselves to the bailiffs who are in charge of security for the courthouse. In the video they identify themselves as officers from Homeland Security while being unlawfully touched and interfered with by activists called to obstruct a federal immigration arrest.

We'll see what happens in court.

Anonymous wrote:It's pretty basic law that officers must announce and show id when asked.

Do we even know if these guys were actually LEA?

That's not the law.

Those activists can continue their work with the inmates in jail.

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Anonymous wrote:The article said they questioned the agents. Questioning plain clothes officers is now a criminal offense?!

My thought exactly. I watched the video and one of the agents was a middle-aged guy with a long ponytail, kind of scruffy looking, and a loose plaid shirt. No way did he look like an LEO. He looked like a rando off the street. If I saw someone looking like they were being abducted by a random looking person in street clothes, I would try to help as well.

The agents provided proper identification to the bailiffs in the courthouse prior to the arrest.

According to Virginia public radio people in the courthouse allegedly noticed an ICE agent sitting in the courtroom and two others outside in the lobby.

“At some point, it became pretty clear that there were three people there that were not normally there, and that something was going to happen, although they never identified themselves,”

According to The Daily Progress the two women who obstructed the agents “appear to be volunteers with the Immigration Rapid Response Hotline, a public service promoted by several civil rights and immigrant support groups. A witness to the Tuesday raid told The Daily Progress that the hotline had been called when the ICE agents were spotted.”

These women were called to intervene in a federal immigration arrest. They knew who these men were. Game over. FAFO.

https://www.vpm.org/news/2025-04-23/albemarle-courthouse-ice-raid-nicholas-reppucci-teodoro-dominguez-rodriguez

https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/crime-courts/article_e6ce6e4a-4161-476f-8d28-94150a891092.html

The first story you posted contradicts what you're saying. ICE claimed they provided ID, but an individual from the Public Defender's Office said they didn't. The individual who is "clearly hiding his identity" sounds like the guy who's wearing a balaclava.

“None of us saw any identification, any badges, and no one said they had a warrant, showed a warrant, or identified themselves as law enforcement. And one, as seen in the video, is clearly hiding his identity,” Reppucci said Wednesday morning.

The agents identified themselves to the bailiffs who are in charge of security for the courthouse. In the video they identify themselves as officers from Homeland Security while being unlawfully touched and interfered with by activists called to obstruct a federal immigration arrest.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The article said they questioned the agents. Questioning plain clothes officers is now a criminal offense?!

My thought exactly. I watched the video and one of the agents was a middle-aged guy with a long ponytail, kind of scruffy looking, and a loose plaid shirt. No way did he look like an LEO. He looked like a rando off the street. If I saw someone looking like they were being abducted by a random looking person in street clothes, I would try to help as well.

The agents provided proper identification to the bailiffs in the courthouse prior to the arrest.

According to Virginia public radio people in the courthouse allegedly noticed an ICE agent sitting in the courtroom and two others outside in the lobby.

“At some point, it became pretty clear that there were three people there that were not normally there, and that something was going to happen, although they never identified themselves,”

According to The Daily Progress the two women who obstructed the agents “appear to be volunteers with the Immigration Rapid Response Hotline, a public service promoted by several civil rights and immigrant support groups. A witness to the Tuesday raid told The Daily Progress that the hotline had been called when the ICE agents were spotted.”

These women were called to intervene in a federal immigration arrest. They knew who these men were. Game over. FAFO.

https://www.vpm.org/news/2025-04-23/albemarle-courthouse-ice-raid-nicholas-reppucci-teodoro-dominguez-rodriguez

https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/crime-courts/article_e6ce6e4a-4161-476f-8d28-94150a891092.html

The first story you posted contradicts what you're saying. ICE claimed they provided ID, but an individual from the Public Defender's Office said they didn't. The individual who is "clearly hiding his identity" sounds like the guy who's wearing a balaclava.

“None of us saw any identification, any badges, and no one said they had a warrant, showed a warrant, or identified themselves as law enforcement. And one, as seen in the video, is clearly hiding his identity,” Reppucci said Wednesday morning.

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Anonymous wrote:The article said they questioned the agents. Questioning plain clothes officers is now a criminal offense?!

My thought exactly. I watched the video and one of the agents was a middle-aged guy with a long ponytail, kind of scruffy looking, and a loose plaid shirt. No way did he look like an LEO. He looked like a rando off the street. If I saw someone looking like they were being abducted by a random looking person in street clothes, I would try to help as well.

The agents provided proper identification to the bailiffs in the courthouse prior to the arrest.

According to Virginia public radio people in the courthouse allegedly noticed an ICE agent sitting in the courtroom and two others outside in the lobby.

“At some point, it became pretty clear that there were three people there that were not normally there, and that something was going to happen, although they never identified themselves,”

According to The Daily Progress the two women who obstructed the agents “appear to be volunteers with the Immigration Rapid Response Hotline, a public service promoted by several civil rights and immigrant support groups. A witness to the Tuesday raid told The Daily Progress that the hotline had been called when the ICE agents were spotted.”

These women were called to intervene in a federal immigration arrest. They knew who these men were. Game over. FAFO.

https://www.vpm.org/news/2025-04-23/albemarle-courthouse-ice-raid-nicholas-reppucci-teodoro-dominguez-rodriguez

https://dailyprogress.com/news/local/crime-courts/article_e6ce6e4a-4161-476f-8d28-94150a891092.html

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty basic law that officers must announce and show id when asked.

Do we even know if these guys were actually LEA?

That's what the first paragraph of the story says.

"U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has broken its silence, conceding its agents were responsible for the arrest of two men during a raid on a downtown Charlottesville courthouse and promising that the bystanders who questioned those agents will be prosecuted."

They are conceding it NOW? So, they denied it when grabbing people? WTF? If the men denied they were ICE, how do bystanders know it’s ICE and not criminals if the agents denied being ICE? This is Orwellian level sh*t and gaslighting of the highest order.

In all seriousness, these guys need to get it together before a bystander exercises there second amendment rights and shoots someone they think is a criminal abducting someone off the street. This is unsafe for bystanders and those taken into custody. But it’s als unsafe for ICE agents. Eventually, someone with a gun will overreact.

Imagine for a moment if the agents were black, not in uniform, and wearing hoodies and/or masks. I would love to see THAT video!

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No. It’s not good for law enforcement or civilians. If someone is being grabbed off the street, it should be clear to that person and everyone watching whether they are being abducted by criminals or lawfully detained. And that’s for the safety of everyone— including ICE agents who could be attacked by bystanders who think they are criminals. And also, bystanders who genuinely think they are stopping a kidnapping and get hurt or killed trying to help.

This is unsafe and unnecessary. Why is it all of a sudden too burdensome to say “we’re from ICE. Here’s our badge and a warrant. You are being detained for being here illegally”?

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty basic law that officers must announce and show id when asked.

Do we even know if these guys were actually LEA?

That's what the first paragraph of the story says.

"U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has broken its silence, conceding its agents were responsible for the arrest of two men during a raid on a downtown Charlottesville courthouse and promising that the bystanders who questioned those agents will be prosecuted."

They are conceding it NOW? So, they denied it when grabbing people? WTF? If the men denied they were ICE, how do bystanders know it’s ICE and not criminals if the agents denied being ICE? This is Orwellian level sh*t and gaslighting of the highest order.

In all seriousness, these guys need to get it together before a bystander exercises there second amendment rights and shoots someone they think is a criminal abducting someone off the street. This is unsafe for bystanders and those taken into custody. But it’s als unsafe for ICE agents. Eventually, someone with a gun will overreact.

I asked AI about the lack of uniforms and the frequent use of face coverings.

"ICE is fundamentally a non-uniformed agency. Agents frequently wear civilian clothing or vests labeled "POLICE," and they may use unmarked vehicles during operations. This approach is part of a broader strategy that includes the use of "ruses," where agents may present themselves as local law enforcement or other officials to facilitate arrests. These tactics are officially sanctioned and taught within ICE, aiming to enhance operational effectiveness by reducing the likelihood of resistance or evasion during enforcement actions."

The use of face coverings by ICE agents is not explicitly prohibited by agency policy. Decisions regarding the wearing of masks are typically left to the discretion of the operation's commander. This practice has become more common in recent years, particularly during high-profile arrests, and has been a source of controversy due to concerns about transparency and accountability.​"