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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is "healthy", some things are just less unhealthy than others.

Also, when speaking of carbohydrates, one must specify, as all carbs = "sugar", but often people use the word sugar to specifically mean sucrose from cane sugar.

Carbs are ok in moderation for active people. The human body needs about 50-100grams of glucose a day, which it will make if you don't ingest any carbs at all. Most is used by the brain.

Sugar is not healthy. And some carbs are more healthy than others.

Once you cut sugars out and most carbs out (no desserts, no bread, no potatoes, no grains) and not alcohol and make your carbs be mostly fruits and vegetables your body will thank you.

Fructose is about the most unhealthy sugar you can consume.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

DP: I suggest you read up on the studies about actual sugar addiction. Sugar acts on the same brain receptors as heroin, so if you are susceptible, this is bad. It's like saying to an addict, have a little heroin in moderation, it'll be fine!

I mean conflating heroin and sugar is a choice. Avoiding all sugar ever isn't possible, it simply isn't. Learning moderation and addressing it with a doctor if possible is the appropriate response to a sugar addiction, if someone is truly that level of addicted.

If you make your own meals, it is very possible to avoid all added sugars. You can get all your carbs from healthy sources---fruits and veggies. You don't need to add sugar to anything. Fruit can sweeten a smoothie--nothing else needed.
Once you do that, when you eat out you notice sugar is in all the dressings/sauces---your body really notices it once you are not addicted to it. And you actually crave NOT having the sugary stuff once your body adjusts.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

The fact remains that sugars are NOT good for you. So avoiding it as much as possible is a healthy thing. It's not a sign of weakness to eat well and power your body for the future. Your 70yo+ self will thank you

Anonymous wrote:Nothing is "healthy", some things are just less unhealthy than others.

Also, when speaking of carbohydrates, one must specify, as all carbs = "sugar", but often people use the word sugar to specifically mean sucrose from cane sugar.

Carbs are ok in moderation for active people. The human body needs about 50-100grams of glucose a day, which it will make if you don't ingest any carbs at all. Most is used by the brain.

Sugar is not healthy. And some carbs are more healthy than others.

Once you cut sugars out and most carbs out (no desserts, no bread, no potatoes, no grains) and not alcohol and make your carbs be mostly fruits and vegetables your body will thank you.

I went on an eliminate sugars and most carbs. I start day with good protein and veggies (a "hash") and a dollop of guacamole/avocado, and I no longer crave snacks/sugary things. Lunch includes a protein and lots of veggies, same for dinner. Any snacks are fruits or veggies (but don't go overboard with fruits, as they are nutritious but lots of "sugar"---I eat more veggies than fruitsand when I eat fruits it's apples, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries---more nutrition for the carb level fruits.

Veggies---skip the potatoes and use sweet potatoes as your "starchy veggies", lots of greens and squashes.

I lost 8 lbs in 10 days doing this, no longer crave sugars and continue to loose weight. And I am not overweight---my BMI prior to this was 23.

I have so much more energy now, sleep better and just feel better. Haven't had bread or a cookie/dessert in 4+ weeks and no longer crave it. Blueberries and dark chocolate (once in a while treat) are enough

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

DP: I suggest you read up on the studies about actual sugar addiction. Sugar acts on the same brain receptors as heroin, so if you are susceptible, this is bad. It's like saying to an addict, have a little heroin in moderation, it'll be fine!

Anyone who is that far gone would have to be on a carnivore diet.

The body still makes glucose as needed for the brain.

Yeah, there are some very specific people who need to be on extreme low carb diets (like people with specific types of epilepsy) but that's not most people. Everything in moderation. My great grandad's favorite food was chocolate chip cookies and he lived to 100. But sure if he'd cut all sugar maybe he could have lived to 101?

No way to answer that, too many variables. Life could have been cut short by not ducking at the right moment while walking. Many narrow escapes even in diet.

Moderation is key. Learning to control urges and moderate things. Like the Buddha taught.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

DP: I suggest you read up on the studies about actual sugar addiction. Sugar acts on the same brain receptors as heroin, so if you are susceptible, this is bad. It's like saying to an addict, have a little heroin in moderation, it'll be fine!

Anyone who is that far gone would have to be on a carnivore diet.

The body still makes glucose as needed for the brain.

Yeah, there are some very specific people who need to be on extreme low carb diets (like people with specific types of epilepsy) but that's not most people. Everything in moderation. My great grandad's favorite food was chocolate chip cookies and he lived to 100. But sure if he'd cut all sugar maybe he could have lived to 101?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

"your urges" come from body chemistry, not force of will.

Urges are mental.

When your stomach growls, that is not an "urge", it is digestion processes. People "mentally" equate that feeling with being hungry.

See the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

DP: I suggest you read up on the studies about actual sugar addiction. Sugar acts on the same brain receptors as heroin, so if you are susceptible, this is bad. It's like saying to an addict, have a little heroin in moderation, it'll be fine!

Anyone who is that far gone would have to be on a carnivore diet.

The body still makes glucose as needed for the brain.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

DP: I suggest you read up on the studies about actual sugar addiction. Sugar acts on the same brain receptors as heroin, so if you are susceptible, this is bad. It's like saying to an addict, have a little heroin in moderation, it'll be fine!

I mean conflating heroin and sugar is a choice. Avoiding all sugar ever isn't possible, it simply isn't. Learning moderation and addressing it with a doctor if possible is the appropriate response to a sugar addiction, if someone is truly that level of addicted.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

DP: I suggest you read up on the studies about actual sugar addiction. Sugar acts on the same brain receptors as heroin, so if you are susceptible, this is bad. It's like saying to an addict, have a little heroin in moderation, it'll be fine!

“Healthy”? No. But, in moderation, it’s a lot less unhealthy than many other sweeteners. People have been eating small amounts of sugar for centuries. Personally, I’d rather have smaller portions of foods that contain sugar than use other sweeteners — with no real understanding of the possible impacts of long term ingestion.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

"your urges" come from body chemistry, not force of will.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

Which is why I have started a daily regimen of arsenic and other heavy metals. Abstaining from poison was a moral weakness in my character.

Science must be a difficult subject for you, one can presume. How many arsenic addicts have you met?

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Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

Umm. I guess that’s one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that you’re too weak to give it up.

Different strokes…

See, you are a self-admitted "addict" of many things, by that definition. Have you given up all bread, carbs, juice, fruit, wearing polyesters, drinking bottled water, wearing makeup, watching TV, etc. If not, then according to your "logic" you are an "addict" of those things as well.

Rhetorical questions to try to get you to think rather than being strangled by your own "addictions".

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Everything in moderation.

Only if you aren’t a sugar addict, right?

You don’t tell an alcoholic to have some wine in moderation, do you?

DP, but I would yes.
Abstaining from something is a sign of weakness, saying you cannot control your urges, so it's good for someone to confront it and learn to moderate it. That's better than just avoiding it.

Which is why I have started a daily regimen of arsenic and other heavy metals. Abstaining from poison was a moral weakness in my character.

That's is such an elegantly passive-aggressive way of telling PP that she is so stupid the only way she would get hired as a door stop would be through a DEI program.