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Anonymous wrote:More than just GPA. There are several administrative steps, all of which need to be done. It cannot be any random set of courses. It has to be the specific courses and with the specific minimum grades - all as spelled out in the NOVA-UVa transfer agreement

My guess, just a guess, is that many more students try to do this than actually succeed.

If all of the above steps are taken and the grades are met with, the admission is actually guaranteed?
I wonder why all UVA rejected students don’t do this then?
Is there any other underlying criteria?

Most kids that apply and are rejected from UVA still prefer to go to a four year university over attending community college. If UVA is still their top choice they can also apply to be transfer students from other four year schools.

Are the steps the same as if they were coming from NOVA? Do they have to take those same transfer courses?

I think the 851 number includes all incoming transfers for the 2nd and 3rd year.
I believe you have to finish ~60 credits at UVA in order to graduate, so there are probably no 4th year transfers.
I also heard that 50% of the 600 transfer students (Virginians?) are from VCC.
It appears that transferring to UVA outside of the "guaranteed" path as VCC or Wise is not that easy as one would think.

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Anonymous wrote:You can do the math to get a rough transfer size.
1) UVA first year target is 3900
2) returning second year is 97% so 3783
3) lose another 1.5% third year 3724
4) lose another 1.5% fourth year 3,666

Add that up and you get 15,073 through traditional first year admission.

UVA has 17,618 undergraduates which means 2,545 transfers roughly. Or about 15% of undergraduate student body.

Based on its CDS, U.Va. accepted 1,357 (32%) of 4,245 transfer applicants in the most recent year. Of those accepted, 851 enrolled.

Good correlation. 851 x 3 is almost exactly the 2,500 number I estimated from total undergrad population.

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Anonymous wrote:More than just GPA. There are several administrative steps, all of which need to be done. It cannot be any random set of courses. It has to be the specific courses and with the specific minimum grades - all as spelled out in the NOVA-UVa transfer agreement

My guess, just a guess, is that many more students try to do this than actually succeed.

If all of the above steps are taken and the grades are met with, the admission is actually guaranteed?
I wonder why all UVA rejected students don’t do this then?
Is there any other underlying criteria?

God forbid you have to tell people your kid is going to community college. I know several people who have done this and it was seamless. Many school s have this option including many privates. Just ask the admissions office, they have teams that work on this specifically.

You have to read the Guaranteed Admission Agreement b/t UVA and NVCC VERY CLOSELY. Some colleges do not participate in that program... like Business college at UVA. They don't take NVCC guaranteed admission people. So, you have to know what program you are interested in, and then find a Virginia 4-yr college that has an agreement with NVCC to do guaranteed admission.

You also have to follow the rules VERY carefully. You can't have any C's or whatever, the standard is. If you can follow the rules closely, and get good grades at NVCC -- which isn't always a given depending on the prof and the class -- then it can work. But, obviously, it's a less-used option for a reason. There are hurdles to following all the rules exactly, and there are hurdles in moving to another place as a transfer student where you don't know anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:More than just GPA. There are several administrative steps, all of which need to be done. It cannot be any random set of courses. It has to be the specific courses and with the specific minimum grades - all as spelled out in the NOVA-UVa transfer agreement

My guess, just a guess, is that many more students try to do this than actually succeed.

Plenty of students transfer. All you need for A&S from NOVA is a 3.4 in the required courses. It's not difficult.

https://www.vccs.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/UVA-College-of-Arts-Sciences_VCCS_GAA_Final.pdf

Yep - it's much easier and much cheaper doing it this way.

I'd read that over half those who go this route are unprepared and fail out.

Link? I’m sure it’s higher withdrawal rate than the 5-6% for traditional first years, but transfers from community college are also disproportionately low income and first gen which is going to be higher dropout due to SE factors.

+1 Community college is not a walk in the park. Organization and discipline are just as important as academic prowess to make it through 2 years of CC and meet all of the qualifications. Also the UVA guarantee is program-specific, so study it carefully.

However, if DC doesn't make it to UVA, there are other transfer options in state.

Anonymous wrote:You can do the math to get a rough transfer size.
1) UVA first year target is 3900
2) returning second year is 97% so 3783
3) lose another 1.5% third year 3724
4) lose another 1.5% fourth year 3,666

Add that up and you get 15,073 through traditional first year admission.

UVA has 17,618 undergraduates which means 2,545 transfers roughly. Or about 15% of undergraduate student body.

Based on its CDS, U.Va. accepted 1,357 (32%) of 4,245 transfer applicants in the most recent year. Of those accepted, 851 enrolled.

Used to be nova kids could apply to business school and start there when transfer if accepted. Now that business school starts 2nd year at uva, will they let nova kids apply to that still? And yes, know very competitive but were the few that could do it before when started 3rd year.