Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 18:58     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Noah was 350 years old when he died. Supposedly.
We can be philosophical about how long we should live but not sure the Bible is going to help.


Does the Bible say anything about taking your doctor's advice? I don't know because I'm not that familiar with the Bible, but I bet it doesn't. It's all about taking God's advice. Or the Church's
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 18:56     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Noah was 350 years old when he died. Supposedly.
We can be philosophical about how long we should live but not sure the Bible is going to help.


If God is responsible for how long we live, then he's increased our lifespan over the years in concert with modern medicine. A miracle!
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 15:27     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Are you kidding? Noah was 350 years old when he died. Supposedly.
We can be philosophical about how long we should live but not sure the Bible is going to help.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 15:01     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did God decide that millions of children should die from preventable diseases that treatments, developed later, could have saved? Did he decide that people should die on a plane that hit a bird? In a car by a drunk driver? From cancer? From depression? From a small interceptable cut that turned into sepsis?

Are you asking your question of man or God?


Who claims ultimate power and unconditional love for humans?


The crazies. That's who.

As another poster said in a different thread, I reject "god's love".

Its a highly abusive, controlling "love". He dictates that you worship him, and only him - and gets extremely jealous if you are unfaithful. He has already decided on everything for you in your life. He's terrible at communication, as its either silence from him directly or dismissive of your input since only he knows what's going on. Only he gets to define sin as its any thought, word, or action that goes against his will, and then he threatens you with eternal punishment for disobeying.


Like those long EULAs, most people don't read or understand the terms and conditions. God's love is clearly conditional.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 14:11     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did God decide that millions of children should die from preventable diseases that treatments, developed later, could have saved? Did he decide that people should die on a plane that hit a bird? In a car by a drunk driver? From cancer? From depression? From a small interceptable cut that turned into sepsis?

Are you asking your question of man or God?


Who claims ultimate power and unconditional love for humans?


The crazies. That's who.

As another poster said in a different thread, I reject "god's love".

Its a highly abusive, controlling "love". He dictates that you worship him, and only him - and gets extremely jealous if you are unfaithful. He has already decided on everything for you in your life. He's terrible at communication, as its either silence from him directly or dismissive of your input since only he knows what's going on. Only he gets to define sin as its any thought, word, or action that goes against his will, and then he threatens you with eternal punishment for disobeying.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 12:54     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
People very much underestimate how long people used to live. I had multiple relatives that lived to be 90 in the 19th century. They were immigrants who survived famine and worked in crappy immigrant jobs in this country. If you survived childhood illnesses and childbirth, you could live for a long time. So I assume that was part of God’s plan since it has happened so long. And I’d assume they had no really medicine — just herbal whatever for sore throats or fever.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 12:15     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
People have always lived into their 80s. Average lifespan was smaller because many, many more people died young or in childbirth, etc. but old people existed and 80s was fairly common if you managed not to die from illness or accident.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 12:08     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Anonymous wrote:Did God decide that millions of children should die from preventable diseases that treatments, developed later, could have saved? Did he decide that people should die on a plane that hit a bird? In a car by a drunk driver? From cancer? From depression? From a small interceptable cut that turned into sepsis?

Are you asking your question of man or God?


Who claims ultimate power and unconditional love for humans?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 12:07     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know what God wants but he/she/they/whatever didn't build our bodies to last well past 70.


Sorry you don't have good genes but in my family we are active until 90.


Well, gene quality is only one way of creating inequality and perpetuate suffering.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 11:59     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Did God decide that millions of children should die from preventable diseases that treatments, developed later, could have saved? Did he decide that people should die on a plane that hit a bird? In a car by a drunk driver? From cancer? From depression? From a small interceptable cut that turned into sepsis?

Are you asking your question of man or God?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 11:53     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Anonymous wrote:I don't know what God wants but he/she/they/whatever didn't build our bodies to last well past 70.


Sorry you don't have good genes but in my family we are active until 90.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 11:51     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:120 until we recover from sin. Read the book.


Does that mean that if a single individual is righteous and without sin, they can live to 120 or longer? Or, does it mean that all of humanity has to "recover from sin" in order to live longer?

Science is what has extended lifespans, both individually and on average. Ultimately, science may one day allow for people to live very long lives. Our bodies are biological machines that could be maintained nearly indefinitely. And, just wait until we figure out how to store our minds electronically.


If you consider PFAS and Carbon dioxide and smoke as part of our sin, the two views start to coalesce.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2025 11:37     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
I don’t think God intends for everyone to die at 75, or any other arbitrary age. My dad is early 80s. Still works as a doctor, goes hiking, runs for exercise. His dad lived to be 99 in fairly good health. 75 seemed young for these two.

And even if you think God “doesn’t intend” for people to live longer, what are you proposing?
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2025 22:38     Subject: Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
People used to live over 900 in the Bible, like Noah and Methuselah. We don't live long enough.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2025 22:36     Subject: Re:Did God intend us to live so long? Past 75?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Speak for yourself. I do see lots of people who were knee deep in gluttony and in misery before 65. But I also see people who had discipline and are active, worthwhile citizens who are going strong at 90.
It is up to us to fulfill the mission.


Sure being disciplined and active protects you against all diseases.


Some people are lucky, One grandmother lived to be 97. She lived a clean life - didn't smoke and never drank much. Liked to garden. Had all her marbles.

Another grandmother lived to age 68. She had cancer. Never smoked and didn't drink much. Was getting forgetful.

One grandfather died in his seventies of a stroke. The other at 91. He was senile.

Wonder who I'll take after. (Everyone likes to think they'll take after the healthiest, oldest grandparent.)