Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 16:05     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Is it a coincidence that Putin also used anti-semitism as an insane excuse to invade Ukraine?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 16:04     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


The Administration demanded requirements to “audit” the viewpoints of the student body, faculty, staff, and to “reduc[e] the power” of certain students, faculty, and administrators targeted because of their ideological views.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 16:02     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Respect for Harvard! Fight the good fight against Trump's meglomania. Not all top universities should cave in to a bully. Trump's not trying to improve education; he's just a narcissist on a vengeance tour.

Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:59     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.

You truly do not get it. There's a lot more at stake than Harvard. Colleges like Hillsdale are fine because they don't do cutting edge research that costs millions of dollars year in and year out. You are supporting the tactics of an authoritarian regime that is telling scholars and students what and how they should think, and allowing the mobs to take out people with whom you disagree. If you are in favor of these cuts because you are fearful of antisemitism or you think that Harvard is full of antisemites, you are foolish. Putin and Orban, and Mao all used these oppressive tactics. You're siding with the Devil, who will have no scruples turning on Jews when convenient.


Exactly this. Jews have just become a convenient excuse for repression and censorship by budding fascists and their right-wing toadies.


I want to see more Jews (I am Jewish) speak out about this. Stop using the historic hatred of Jews as a tool in fascism! I want nothing to do with this.

Also the way these people conflate anti-semitism with opposition to the current Israeli government does not in any way make me, a Jew, feel safer. I also oppose the actions of the current Israeli government. If I speak out about that, am I an anti-Semite?

We need to stop this.


+1. Wish more like-minded Jews would speak up on this.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:53     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.

You truly do not get it. There's a lot more at stake than Harvard. Colleges like Hillsdale are fine because they don't do cutting edge research that costs millions of dollars year in and year out. You are supporting the tactics of an authoritarian regime that is telling scholars and students what and how they should think, and allowing the mobs to take out people with whom you disagree. If you are in favor of these cuts because you are fearful of antisemitism or you think that Harvard is full of antisemites, you are foolish. Putin and Orban, and Mao all used these oppressive tactics. You're siding with the Devil, who will have no scruples turning on Jews when convenient.


Exactly this. Jews have just become a convenient excuse for repression and censorship by budding fascists and their right-wing toadies.


I want to see more Jews (I am Jewish) speak out about this. Stop using the historic hatred of Jews as a tool in fascism! I want nothing to do with this.

Also the way these people conflate anti-semitism with opposition to the current Israeli government does not in any way make me, a Jew, feel safer. I also oppose the actions of the current Israeli government. If I speak out about that, am I an anti-Semite?

We need to stop this.


I can't tell you how many Jewish people I know who believe this. You aren't allowed to saying ANYTHING negative about Israel ever.

+1. I am horrified by my otherwise progressive, liberal Jewish friends (even those who went to law school!) who would rather squelch free speech and academic freedom than have to tolerate criticism of Israel, or have their children be exposed to this on college campuses. They cannot comprehend intellectually the distinction between criticism of Israel's actions and antisemitism, even though there are tens of thousands of Israeli Jews who are publicly protesting against Netanyahu and the ongoing war in Gaza. It's short-sighted at best. The problem, of course, is that accepting the immediate relief offered by Trump's strong-arming of colleges comes with a very, very high price tag. Trump is not out to protect the Jews; he's courting the favor of White evangelical Christians who believe that they need to support Jews to hasten the second coming of Christ. When that happens, Jews who have not accepted Christ as their savior will be annihilated, which should strike terror in every Jew.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:35     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.

You truly do not get it. There's a lot more at stake than Harvard. Colleges like Hillsdale are fine because they don't do cutting edge research that costs millions of dollars year in and year out. You are supporting the tactics of an authoritarian regime that is telling scholars and students what and how they should think, and allowing the mobs to take out people with whom you disagree. If you are in favor of these cuts because you are fearful of antisemitism or you think that Harvard is full of antisemites, you are foolish. Putin and Orban, and Mao all used these oppressive tactics. You're siding with the Devil, who will have no scruples turning on Jews when convenient.


Exactly this. Jews have just become a convenient excuse for repression and censorship by budding fascists and their right-wing toadies.


I want to see more Jews (I am Jewish) speak out about this. Stop using the historic hatred of Jews as a tool in fascism! I want nothing to do with this.

Also the way these people conflate anti-semitism with opposition to the current Israeli government does not in any way make me, a Jew, feel safer. I also oppose the actions of the current Israeli government. If I speak out about that, am I an anti-Semite?

We need to stop this.


I can't tell you how many Jewish people I know who believe this. You aren't allowed to saying ANYTHING negative about Israel ever.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:25     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.

You truly do not get it. There's a lot more at stake than Harvard. Colleges like Hillsdale are fine because they don't do cutting edge research that costs millions of dollars year in and year out. You are supporting the tactics of an authoritarian regime that is telling scholars and students what and how they should think, and allowing the mobs to take out people with whom you disagree. If you are in favor of these cuts because you are fearful of antisemitism or you think that Harvard is full of antisemites, you are foolish. Putin and Orban, and Mao all used these oppressive tactics. You're siding with the Devil, who will have no scruples turning on Jews when convenient.


Exactly this. Jews have just become a convenient excuse for repression and censorship by budding fascists and their right-wing toadies.


I want to see more Jews (I am Jewish) speak out about this. Stop using the historic hatred of Jews as a tool in fascism! I want nothing to do with this.

Also the way these people conflate anti-semitism with opposition to the current Israeli government does not in any way make me, a Jew, feel safer. I also oppose the actions of the current Israeli government. If I speak out about that, am I an anti-Semite?

We need to stop this.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:22     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.


You act like the taxpayer funds are going to Harvard itself. They don't they largely go to research conducted by Harvard faculty and graduate students and the research has broad public benefits. Also a lot of the money goes towards programs that make Harvard more accessible to students from a broader range of backgrounds, including people from rural areas and red states -- i.e. Trump voters. So they are undermining their goal of a more ideological diverse university environment by trying to withdraw this funding.

Furthermore, the demands they are making as a condition of the funds are, in fact, illegal. They are demanding that Harvard censor students and discriminate against people based on their political and religious views, as a condition of this funding. That's probably unconstitutional -- the US government cannot demand that a university violate the civil rights of its students as a condition of government funding.

There was a way to go about what many on the right want in terms of diversifying academia politically. This isn't it. But of course, this plan was designed and executed by a white supremacist who has the ear of a president with white supremacist political leanings, so that's no surprise.

Lie down with Nazis, wake up with fascism, as they say.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:18     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Go Harvard. Never thought I’d say that.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:17     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.


The government doesn’t get to infringe on First Amendment rights and academic freedom simply because of the receipt of government funds or tax benefits.

Doesn’t work like that.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:16     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.

You truly do not get it. There's a lot more at stake than Harvard. Colleges like Hillsdale are fine because they don't do cutting edge research that costs millions of dollars year in and year out. You are supporting the tactics of an authoritarian regime that is telling scholars and students what and how they should think, and allowing the mobs to take out people with whom you disagree. If you are in favor of these cuts because you are fearful of antisemitism or you think that Harvard is full of antisemites, you are foolish. Putin and Orban, and Mao all used these oppressive tactics. You're siding with the Devil, who will have no scruples turning on Jews when convenient.


Exactly this. Jews have just become a convenient excuse for repression and censorship by budding fascists and their right-wing toadies.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:09     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.


Do you realize you described Trump and Elon Musk??

Trump throws hissy fits on the daily while peeing away our tax money on golf trips.

Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:07     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:Good for them. It's about time someone went to the mat fighting for the rights of students to verbally harass Jewish students for years on end.

I take it you thought McCarthy had some good points?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 15:00     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Good for them. It's about time someone went to the mat fighting for the rights of students to verbally harass Jewish students for years on end.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 14:48     Subject: Harvard Rejects Trump Admin’s Demands, Going to Court

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So dumb. “No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue”’

The government isn’t saying that. No one is forcing Harvard to do anything. They have a billion dollar endowment and can do as they please.

What they can’t do is foster an educational atmosphere of harassment and expect the taxpayers to finance it.


Sounds like you skipped the letter with the Trump admin’s demands. In the second link.


I literally quoted from the article.

No one is forcing Harvard to do anything.

Harvard is throwing a hissy fit because it wants to do certain things AND get taxpayer funds.

Doesn’t work like that.


All taxpayers will never agree on anything. If the standard for receipt taxpayer funds is agreement from all taxpayers, then nothing would ever be funded from public coffers.