Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump hasn't ended tariffs on either, and you can't just call in a bond.

No. But if Japan and China dumped the US treasuries they hold (about 1.8 trillion) on the open market, the US economy would suffer greatly for a long time.

Why are you bringing up China? This is about Japan and Canada.

Japan and China (not Canada) hold the most U.S. debt

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump hasn't ended tariffs on either, and you can't just call in a bond.

No. But if Japan and China dumped the US treasuries they hold (about 1.8 trillion) on the open market, the US economy would suffer greatly for a long time.

You realize China and Japan don't like each other? The animus is real.

China owns about 3% of our debt.

Now, you were saying (while cheering on our number one adversary, China).

Trump pushed Japan and South Korea into a trade agreement with China, that’s how crazy he is.

The PP doesn’t seem to understand that Trump is making China the reliable trading partner to the world.

Do you have a link to a source for this?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump hasn't ended tariffs on either, and you can't just call in a bond.

No. But if Japan and China dumped the US treasuries they hold (about 1.8 trillion) on the open market, the US economy would suffer greatly for a long time.

US debt stands at 36+ Trillion.

A supply shock like that only happens if Japan and China are willing to take a bath on the sale. The rates don't increase unless the price of bonds goes down. And drop in bond prices world probably get digested in weeks of not days. So Japan and China world have to be willing to suffer a loss of billions of dollars to create a temporary blip in us bond prices. As long as the US dollar is the reserve currency, there is an almost infinite demand for us treasuries.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump hasn't ended tariffs on either, and you can't just call in a bond.

No. But if Japan and China dumped the US treasuries they hold (about 1.8 trillion) on the open market, the US economy would suffer greatly for a long time.

You realize China and Japan don't like each other? The animus is real.

China owns about 3% of our debt.

Now, you were saying (while cheering on our number one adversary, China).

Today the number one adversary of the United States of America as it has been known for over 200 years is not china. It is Donald J. Trump and his merry band of MAGA vandals. Policy is policy, but you jokers are trying to shred the fabric of this society.

+1 thank you.

Japan is saying they are not going to rush the trade deal, probably because Trump is too chaotic and not trustworthy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-pressed-fast-negotiations-105125985.html

Bessent's comments come as Japan's Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba said he was in no rush to agree to a deal with the U.S. as trade negotiations kick off in-person in Washington, D.C., this week—perhaps not the reaction Trump was looking for when he imposed a 24% "reciprocal" hike on the country on April 2.

“We may fail if we rush, and I don’t think it’s good to compromise a lot in order to just get the negotiations done,” Ishiba said in parliament yesterday.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump hasn't ended tariffs on either, and you can't just call in a bond.

No. But if Japan and China dumped the US treasuries they hold (about 1.8 trillion) on the open market, the US economy would suffer greatly for a long time.

Why are you bringing up China? This is about Japan and Canada.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump hasn't ended tariffs on either, and you can't just call in a bond.

No. But if Japan and China dumped the US treasuries they hold (about 1.8 trillion) on the open market, the US economy would suffer greatly for a long time.

Was this thread supposed to say Japan and China or Japan and Canada?

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is going to start announcing tariff deals that are substaintially the same as if none of this had happened and the damage to the US reputation and the markets will have been for nothing but to feed his ego.

That probably won’t entirely save the market, and it certainly won’t restore our reputation.

Exactly (I am the PP you are responding to) - the reputational damage will take years/decades to repair.

Anonymous wrote:Trump is going to start announcing tariff deals that are substaintially the same as if none of this had happened and the damage to the US reputation and the markets will have been for nothing but to feed his ego.

That probably won’t entirely save the market, and it certainly won’t restore our reputation.

Trump is going to start announcing tariff deals that are substaintially the same as if none of this had happened and the damage to the US reputation and the markets will have been for nothing but to feed his ego.

Anonymous wrote:Trump hasn't ended tariffs on either, and you can't just call in a bond.

They can sell the bonds, floodig the market with them, which would raise intrest rates and cheapen the value.we arleady saw this last week, which is what got the Bond market execs panicking on wall street.