MAGAs complain about coastal liberal elitism and arrogance. In reality, MAGAs have unchecked, outdated elitism and arrogance about America's standing in the world.

Anonymous wrote:You all don’t understand tariffs. America will win this. China doesn’t have any countries willing to buy like we do.

Export is only 2% of China's GDP. They care but not that much. Trump will knee first.

Anonymous wrote:? OP what do you mean to do by this post?

Fact: Trump has tanked our economy, acted against the constitution, lowering the taxes for the rich while raising axes for the poor, etc.

Fact: the Dems still have no coherent response. And Pelaoi continues to ask me for money.

It’s not enough to watch Trump implode. We also need to figure ways who leads the Dems in tbe future.

We can get to the future once we stop the bleeding. Trump is 11 weeks into his presidency. The next election isn’t for 18 months and for president 3 1/2 years.

Everyone who loves democracy needs to come together to bring Trump‘s numbers down so low that Republicans will finally unshackle themselves from him. We must continue to expose that the emperor has no clothes so voters will turn on him. We know the cult will never leave him, but they are a small fraction of those who voted for him.

Anonymous wrote:This week was telling. Trump caved on the tariffs. Trump thought that he was so smart but reality is a funny thing.
Capital won. Or as Scott Gallagher likes to say the 10 year bond was the adult in the room.

But also interesting was we got to see what a cuck Musk is. He thought he could manipulate Trump but instead, Trump listened to Navarro. Musk isn’t all powerful as he believes to be.

Trump blinked (not the first time, won’t be the last), Elon got sidelined, and millions of Americans went to the streets up to oppose this regime.

There's blood in the water.

Cool story

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Anonymous wrote:This week was telling. Trump caved on the tariffs. Trump thought that he was so smart but reality is a funny thing.
Capital won. Or as Scott Gallagher likes to say the 10 year bond was the adult in the room.

But also interesting was we got to see what a cuck Musk is. He thought he could manipulate Trump but instead, Trump listened to Navarro. Musk isn’t all powerful as he believes to be.

Trump blinked (not the first time, won’t be the last), Elon got sidelined, and millions of Americans went to the streets up to oppose this regime.

There's blood in the water.

He didn't blink if the intent was to isolate China - which he has.

China, Japan and S. Korea are aligning to work together. Trump pushed to of the USA allies into a cooperative trading alliance with China. China's not isolated. Europe is purchasing Chinese EV's not American EVs

Right, I don't think you isolate China by waging trade war against the entire world. It really says something that other countries now view China as more stable and reasonable than US.

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Anonymous wrote:This week was telling. Trump caved on the tariffs. Trump thought that he was so smart but reality is a funny thing.
Capital won. Or as Scott Gallagher likes to say the 10 year bond was the adult in the room.

But also interesting was we got to see what a cuck Musk is. He thought he could manipulate Trump but instead, Trump listened to Navarro. Musk isn’t all powerful as he believes to be.

Trump blinked (not the first time, won’t be the last), Elon got sidelined, and millions of Americans went to the streets up to oppose this regime.

There's blood in the water.

He didn't blink if the intent was to isolate China - which he has.

China, Japan and S. Korea are aligning to work together. Trump pushed to of the USA allies into a cooperative trading alliance with China. China's not isolated. Europe is purchasing Chinese EV's not American EVs

Anonymous wrote:You all don’t understand tariffs. America will win this. China doesn’t have any countries willing to buy like we do.

Is that what Fox News is telling you?

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Anonymous wrote:This week was telling. Trump caved on the tariffs. Trump thought that he was so smart but reality is a funny thing.
Capital won. Or as Scott Gallagher likes to say the 10 year bond was the adult in the room.

But also interesting was we got to see what a cuck Musk is. He thought he could manipulate Trump but instead, Trump listened to Navarro. Musk isn’t all powerful as he believes to be.

Trump blinked (not the first time, won’t be the last), Elon got sidelined, and millions of Americans went to the streets up to oppose this regime.

There's blood in the water.

He didn't blink if the intent was to isolate China - which he has.

Completely disagree. His actions have emboldened China. I wouldn’t be surprised if they invaded Taiwan soon.

? OP what do you mean to do by this post?

Fact: Trump has tanked our economy, acted against the constitution, lowering the taxes for the rich while raising axes for the poor, etc.

Fact: the Dems still have no coherent response. And Pelaoi continues to ask me for money.

It’s not enough to watch Trump implode. We also need to figure ways who leads the Dems in tbe future.

Anonymous wrote:You all don’t understand tariffs. America will win this. China doesn’t have any countries willing to buy like we do.

That is one way of looking at it, but the main point is that goods are more important than money.

Without U.S. trade, China is losing out on cash. Well, that isn’t great, but cash is not as important as goods that you cannot make. Americans are losing out on goods. They need parts for machines, they need microchips, they need semiconductors, they need textiles. They need them so badly that even with 145% tariffs, Americans will still buy them, whereas China can find other sources.

People are focused on the dollar amount - China only buys $xx from the U.S., but we buy $2xx! That doesn’t matter as much as people think. It’s not the dollar amount, it’s the pain of not having goods you need. Many businesses don’t have the cash reserves to pay tariffs and wait for customers to pay higher prices. They will receive a $500k container at the dock, pay >$1.2 million with the tariff, and then sweat until they can start to make money off the products. They might face a lead time of 6-12 months before they see any returns. In the meantime, they have to make payroll, pay rent, pay utilities, pay benefits, pay their other suppliers. Many businesses cannot afford to pay an extra 725k up front and they will end up laying off employees and then shuttering.

“Least dirty shirt in the laundry” is a phrase I’ve been using for years - now some idiot got ketchup all over our shirt. This thread lays it all out pretty simply.

It’s just unfathomable to some Americans that the US is not at the top of the heap in all things. So many maga people think the U.S. holds the leverage here.

Yeah the fireside chat about the loss of US hegemony that the next normal President will have to have with the American people is going to be something.

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Anonymous wrote:This week was telling. Trump caved on the tariffs. Trump thought that he was so smart but reality is a funny thing.
Capital won. Or as Scott Gallagher likes to say the 10 year bond was the adult in the room.

But also interesting was we got to see what a cuck Musk is. He thought he could manipulate Trump but instead, Trump listened to Navarro. Musk isn’t all powerful as he believes to be.

Trump blinked (not the first time, won’t be the last), Elon got sidelined, and millions of Americans went to the streets up to oppose this regime.

There's blood in the water.

He didn't blink if the intent was to isolate China - which he has.

Are those the new talking points?

+1 If so you need to return them to Press Room Barbie for a refund.

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Anonymous wrote:This week was telling. Trump caved on the tariffs. Trump thought that he was so smart but reality is a funny thing.
Capital won. Or as Scott Gallagher likes to say the 10 year bond was the adult in the room.

But also interesting was we got to see what a cuck Musk is. He thought he could manipulate Trump but instead, Trump listened to Navarro. Musk isn’t all powerful as he believes to be.

Trump blinked (not the first time, won’t be the last), Elon got sidelined, and millions of Americans went to the streets up to oppose this regime.

There's blood in the water.

He didn't blink if the intent was to isolate China - which he has.

Um, China is in a trade agreement with its mortal enemies Japan and South Korea.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china-japan-south-korea-will-jointly-respond-us-tariffs-chinese-state-media-says-2025-03-31/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This week was telling. Trump caved on the tariffs. Trump thought that he was so smart but reality is a funny thing.
Capital won. Or as Scott Gallagher likes to say the 10 year bond was the adult in the room.

But also interesting was we got to see what a cuck Musk is. He thought he could manipulate Trump but instead, Trump listened to Navarro. Musk isn’t all powerful as he believes to be.

Trump blinked (not the first time, won’t be the last), Elon got sidelined, and millions of Americans went to the streets up to oppose this regime.

There's blood in the water.

He didn't blink if the intent was to isolate China - which he has.

It’s just unfathomable to some Americans that the US is not at the top of the heap in all things. So many maga people think the U.S. holds the leverage here. Even before the bond market did a u turn, it was China with the leverage all along. They buy corn and soybeans from the U.S., which are easily sourced elsewhere. They have a $1 trillion trade surplus with the U.S. They can take advantage of the withered trade relations with other countries that Trump has left in his wake. They will take this opportunity to displace the U.S. in soft power in Asia, Africa and South America. Trump is f’ing it all up, and all China has to do is watch it happen.

Countries will have to choose between doing business with the U.S. and doing business with China. Doing business with China requires many sacrifices for foreign companies that are not required to do business with the U.S. (and China has a tendency to steal IP). Also, the U.S. has tremendous natural resources that many countries want, including oil and natural gas.

Your country is not the only country with “tremendous natural resources” such as oil and natural gas. There are other countries in the world that have those resources as well.