Anonymous wrote:Venezuela is a shining example of socialism many university professors so admire. Let these Venezuelans go back to enjoying a wonderful life under socialism. Why would they leave? It myst be it hasn’t been implemented hard & proper enough.

Or could it be the socialists via the govt have already stolen the fruits of labor; there is none left to steal so they are coming here to steal.

Why is Trump trying to emulate Maduro then?

Anonymous wrote:It’s time to question the process when the government publishes a document showing a “Venezuelan gang tattoo” that actually belongs to “an average middle-aged man from Derbyshire” (in the U.K.).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly22xm8kx1o

UGH

It’s time to question the process when the government publishes a document showing a “Venezuelan gang tattoo” that actually belongs to “an average middle-aged man from Derbyshire” (in the U.K.).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly22xm8kx1o

Pepperidge farms remembers that we tried to warn Venezuelan American citizens not to vote for Republicans, but they did anyhow.

Once Republicans figure out they can disappear recent immigrants without penalty, they will also start trying to disappear naturalized legal citizens as well. The White House even officially announced that very intention this past week.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Problem with the asylum program is it's getting abused.

Asylum program getting gamed as a way to move to the U.S.

We the taxpayers foot the bill for asylum seekers. You think the average American wants to pay for the rent, housing, medical expenses, etc. for illegal migrants gaming the system -- when Americans are getting told by medical insurance companies that their medical care is not covered?

This is one big reason why the Democrats lost the election. How do you not get it by now?

This is literally the first time I have heard anyone talk about asylum seekers as "one big reason why the Democrats lost the election." I am talking about LEGAL ASYLUM SEEKERS. Donald Trump and MAGA are always talking about ILLEGAL immigration.

By the way, there were plenty of people granted asylum under Trump 1.0. Roughly the same average per year as Biden.

Biden let in many more on parole, with the idea that they would eventually apply for asylum.

Restating that I am not talking about illegal immigrants, convicted gang members, people on parole, people who might "eventually apply for asylum."

I am talking about people without a criminal record, who used the Customs and Border Patrol system legally to apply for asylum and were assigned an asylum hearing. Again legal asylum seekers.

How did the program work pre-Biden - did people apply for asylum at the border (en masse) the way they are now? The ones gaming the system from Biden's directives are ruining it for folks who genuinely have an asylum case. The same goes for the lawyers making a living helping illegal migrants game the system.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Problem with the asylum program is it's getting abused.

Asylum program getting gamed as a way to move to the U.S.

We the taxpayers foot the bill for asylum seekers. You think the average American wants to pay for the rent, housing, medical expenses, etc. for illegal migrants gaming the system -- when Americans are getting told by medical insurance companies that their medical care is not covered?

This is one big reason why the Democrats lost the election. How do you not get it by now?

This is literally the first time I have heard anyone talk about asylum seekers as "one big reason why the Democrats lost the election." I am talking about LEGAL ASYLUM SEEKERS. Donald Trump and MAGA are always talking about ILLEGAL immigration.

By the way, there were plenty of people granted asylum under Trump 1.0. Roughly the same average per year as Biden.

Biden let in many more on parole, with the idea that they would eventually apply for asylum.

Restating that I am not talking about illegal immigrants, convicted gang members, people on parole, people who might "eventually apply for asylum."

I am talking about people without a criminal record, who used the Customs and Border Patrol system legally to apply for asylum and were assigned an asylum hearing. Again legal asylum seekers.

Anonymous wrote:Problem with the asylum program is it's getting abused.

Asylum program getting gamed as a way to move to the U.S.

We the taxpayers foot the bill for asylum seekers. You think the average American wants to pay for the rent, housing, medical expenses, etc. for illegal migrants gaming the system -- when Americans are getting told by medical insurance companies that their medical care is not covered?

This is one big reason why the Democrats lost the election. How do you not get it by now?

The bipartisan immigration bill included resources to speed up this process so that asylum seekers would spend weeks instead of years here waiting for their hearings. But you all didn’t like that either so here we are.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Problem with the asylum program is it's getting abused.

Asylum program getting gamed as a way to move to the U.S.

We the taxpayers foot the bill for asylum seekers. You think the average American wants to pay for the rent, housing, medical expenses, etc. for illegal migrants gaming the system -- when Americans are getting told by medical insurance companies that their medical care is not covered?

This is one big reason why the Democrats lost the election. How do you not get it by now?

This is literally the first time I have heard anyone talk about asylum seekers as "one big reason why the Democrats lost the election." I am talking about LEGAL ASYLUM SEEKERS. Donald Trump and MAGA are always talking about ILLEGAL immigration.

By the way, there were plenty of people granted asylum under Trump 1.0. Roughly the same average per year as Biden.

Biden let in many more on parole, with the idea that they would eventually apply for asylum.

Anonymous wrote:Problem with the asylum program is it's getting abused.

Asylum program getting gamed as a way to move to the U.S.

We the taxpayers foot the bill for asylum seekers. You think the average American wants to pay for the rent, housing, medical expenses, etc. for illegal migrants gaming the system -- when Americans are getting told by medical insurance companies that their medical care is not covered?

This is one big reason why the Democrats lost the election. How do you not get it by now?

+1

Anonymous wrote:Venezuela is a shining example of socialism many university professors so admire. Let these Venezuelans go back to enjoying a wonderful life under socialism. Why would they leave? It myst be it hasn’t been implemented hard & proper enough.

Or could it be the socialists via the govt have already stolen the fruits of labor; there is none left to steal so they are coming here to steal.

huh?

Usually if you hate a government and think it is repressive, you are more and not less likely to let in the people who were fleeing that government.

Also, why are you talking about university professors?

Venezuela is a shining example of socialism many university professors so admire. Let these Venezuelans go back to enjoying a wonderful life under socialism. Why would they leave? It myst be it hasn’t been implemented hard & proper enough.

Or could it be the socialists via the govt have already stolen the fruits of labor; there is none left to steal so they are coming here to steal.

Anonymous wrote:Problem with the asylum program is it's getting abused.

Asylum program getting gamed as a way to move to the U.S.

We the taxpayers foot the bill for asylum seekers. You think the average American wants to pay for the rent, housing, medical expenses, etc. for illegal migrants gaming the system -- when Americans are getting told by medical insurance companies that their medical care is not covered?

This is one big reason why the Democrats lost the election. How do you not get it by now?

This is literally the first time I have heard anyone talk about asylum seekers as "one big reason why the Democrats lost the election." I am talking about LEGAL ASYLUM SEEKERS. Donald Trump and MAGA are always talking about ILLEGAL immigration.

By the way, there were plenty of people granted asylum under Trump 1.0. Roughly the same average per year as Biden.

Problem with the asylum program is it's getting abused.

Asylum program getting gamed as a way to move to the U.S.

We the taxpayers foot the bill for asylum seekers. You think the average American wants to pay for the rent, housing, medical expenses, etc. for illegal migrants gaming the system -- when Americans are getting told by medical insurance companies that their medical care is not covered?

This is one big reason why the Democrats lost the election. How do you not get it by now?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2025/04/10/venezuelan-man-sent-to-salvadoran-prison-by-former-milwaukee-cop/83023641007/

This is pretty insane.

This is heart-breaking. I can't believe the US we have fallen so low. How can any Trump supporter read this and not feel deeply ashamed?

It is not heartbreaking.

Have you even read a single account of what these gang members do to their victims? Hands chopped off with machetes. Sex-trafficking and forced prostitution of girls as young as 12. Fentanyl dealing in our schools.

You prefer to keep these people here in the USA to victimize your daughter or son??

Not PP but in America people are supposed to have hearings in front of a judge to determine whether they actually chopped off someone’s hand before they are sentenced to prison.

You’re describing rights given to US Citizens. You are talking about illegals invading the country. They have no rights here. Send them home.

Your ignorance is so profound you must be a Russian troll.

Here in the USA we have a Constitution that guarantees EVERYONE in our land has rights to free speech and due process of law. These Venezuelans were illegally deprived of their due process rights. They need to be returned to this country to have hearings. If they are deportable, then and only then can they be deported.

Read the U.S. Constitution.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2025/04/10/venezuelan-man-sent-to-salvadoran-prison-by-former-milwaukee-cop/83023641007/

This is pretty insane.

This is heart-breaking. I can't believe the US we have fallen so low. How can any Trump supporter read this and not feel deeply ashamed?

It is not heartbreaking.

Have you even read a single account of what these gang members do to their victims? Hands chopped off with machetes. Sex-trafficking and forced prostitution of girls as young as 12. Fentanyl dealing in our schools.

You prefer to keep these people here in the USA to victimize your daughter or son??

PP, respectfully. You are changing the subject. I am not talking about convicted criminals, who WE ALL AGREE should be in jail. I am talking about asylum seekers who have passed their Credible Fear Interview. (And I would wager a lot of money that I have read more accounts of gang violence than you have. I have a PhD and have studied Latin American gangs.)

In the United States, we believe in due process. The Consitution guarantees it. The Supreme Court has upheld the right to due process - yes, yes, even for the undocumented! - many times.

I repeat: I am not talking about gang members. I am talking about asylum seekers. The most you can possibly call them is "suspected gang members."

I'll use this phrase if it makes you happy. We can focus on one or two of these "suspected gang members." The ones I have looked into the most are Andry Jose Hernandez Romero and Jerce Reyes Barrios. The evidence against them is SHOCKINGLY flimsy and, in Andry's case, does not even add up to the governments own point system. So yet another "administrative error" even by your own standards!!

Why do I call the evidence flimsy?

*Both men are under suspicion for having CROWN TATTOOS. This would not pass muster in any court of law.

*Ronna Risquez, the premier expert on Tren de Aragua in Venezuela (a woman who gets death threats from Tren de Aragua and is not in the habit of helping gang bangers) has repeatedly said that Venezuelan gangs DO NOT USE TATTOOS AS IDENTIFIERS. Just because Salvadoran gangs may does not mean Venezuelan gangs do!! For what it's worth, it seems that this screening criteria started under Biden, so there is plenty of blame to go around.

*The other piece of evidence against Jerce is a social media photo with his hands in what has to be the most common photo pose among little kids in the universe. If one such photo were reliable evidence of gang membership, my guess is that any one of our kids between age 7 and 17 would be in jail.

If there is any other evidence against these two, please present it. I know that there isn't because I have read court filings.