Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:04
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't know what the word "prestige" means.
An electrical lineman might make $250k a year, and it's a cool job. But it is not "prestigious".
+1 Salary doesn't equal prestige.
A professor teaching your kid may make 150K a year. A government employee influencing US health policy at NIH may make 175K a year. A Pulitzer prize winning journalist may make 80k a year. A person running an NGO saving lives may make 60K a year. These are prestigious jobs that get the most talented thinkers, in my opinion. You're more likely to get them coming out of an Ivy than Rice (although Rice is also a good school). But if you equate prestige only to $, enjoy your life choices. You can make even more money selling drugs, and even though that's illegal, that's "prestigious" by the OP's definition.
This is moving the goal posts these grads are all getting similar types of jobs. Most go into finance or consulting of some sort. This is a Deloitte vs BCG type of difference.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:03
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those of you who swear non ivy T25s like Washu, Emory, Vanderbilt, Rice are less prestigious than ivys please explain the Salary differences for 2023 grads
Yale
$88,464
https://cdn.ocs.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/77/2025/01/Final-Class-of-2023-Report-6-months.pdf
Cornell
$84,000
https://ccs.career.cornell.edu/dash/dashboard_employment
Princeton
$89,144(mean) $60,000 median
https://projects.dailyprincetonian.com/senior-survey-2023/after-princeton.html
Emory
$82,100
https://apply.emory.edu/discover/facts-stats/after-graduation.html
Washu
$85,000
https://careers.wustl.edu/outcomes/#!eWVhcj0yMDIz
Vanderbilt
$85,000
https://www.vanderbilt.edu/career/career-outcomes/
Rice
$87,000
https://ccd.rice.edu/about/annual-report
These seem like Ivy level numbers to me. And a reminder that Emory doesn't have Engineering. Vandy, Rice, and Emory are all in the South as well.
There is no such thing as a striver unless you mean someone who works hard to get ahead. People here use that terms as a bad word. It is a good word to the extent it is even properly used.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:03
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
No, YOU have some explaining to do, OP.
Why do you care so much?
99.99% of people don't care at all. Particularly those in the named institutions.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:02
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:For those of you who swear non ivy T25s like Washu, Emory, Vanderbilt, Rice are less prestigious than ivys please explain the Salary differences for 2023 grads
Yale
$88,464
https://cdn.ocs.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/77/2025/01/Final-Class-of-2023-Report-6-months.pdf
Cornell
$84,000
https://ccs.career.cornell.edu/dash/dashboard_employment
Princeton
$89,144(mean) $60,000 median
https://projects.dailyprincetonian.com/senior-survey-2023/after-princeton.html
Emory
$82,100
https://apply.emory.edu/discover/facts-stats/after-graduation.html
Washu
$85,000
https://careers.wustl.edu/outcomes/#!eWVhcj0yMDIz
Vanderbilt
$85,000
https://www.vanderbilt.edu/career/career-outcomes/
Rice
$87,000
https://ccd.rice.edu/about/annual-report
These seem like Ivy level numbers to me. And a reminder that Emory doesn't have Engineering. Vandy, Rice, and Emory are all in the South as well.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:02
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
You do not need to graduate from a prestigious school by DCUM definition to get a great education and live the best life you can. Stop obsessing over what others think (which is the main problem with prestige)!
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:02
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not an Ivy grad, nor do I have Ivy aspirations for my kids, but MY GOD the level of insecurity it takes to compile this data, care about it, and create a post.
This is unhinged. I am begging you to go outside and get some sunshine.
This took 5 min on chatgpt. Get with the times old man.
You spent 5 minutes writing a prompt so that ChatGPT could create a DCUM gripe thread for you???
Yes, I too think you could use some fresh air and sunshine.
You all made a 8 page thread bashing Washu for not being as good as Cornell but I can't make a response to it. I hit a nerve didn't I?
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:01
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't know what the word "prestige" means.
An electrical lineman might make $250k a year, and it's a cool job. But it is not "prestigious".
+1 Salary doesn't equal prestige.
A professor teaching your kid may make 150K a year. A government employee influencing US health policy at NIH may make 175K a year. A Pulitzer prize winning journalist may make 80k a year. A person running an NGO saving lives may make 60K a year. These are prestigious jobs that get the most talented thinkers, in my opinion. You're more likely to get them coming out of an Ivy than Rice (although Rice is also a good school). But if you equate prestige only to $, enjoy your life choices. You can make even more money selling drugs, and even though that's illegal, that's "prestigious" by the OP's definition.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:01
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Salary isn’t the marker of prestige. Many prestigious jobs (that those ivy grads go into) don’t pay well.
Yep.
Nonprofit leaders
PhDs in academics
Heads of museums
Leaders in the arts world
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:00
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Oh yes because these are certainly blue collar grads. And lineman are impressive, especially the ones in corporate offices.Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't know what the word "prestige" means.
An electrical lineman might make $250k a year, and it's a cool job. But it is not "prestigious".
Anonymous
04/10/2025 12:59
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not an Ivy grad, nor do I have Ivy aspirations for my kids, but MY GOD the level of insecurity it takes to compile this data, care about it, and create a post.
This is unhinged. I am begging you to go outside and get some sunshine.
This took 5 min on chatgpt. Get with the times old man.
You spent 5 minutes writing a prompt so that ChatGPT could create a DCUM gripe thread for you???
Yes, I too think you could use some fresh air and sunshine.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 12:59
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
more than half the kids at yale pay full fare. they dont really need a lucrative job out of the gate. they can play a longer game.
SUNY Maritime and Coast Guard Academy have great starting salaries. I guess that's the height of prestige for you.
SUNY Maritime and Coast Guard Academy have great starting salaries. I guess that's the height of prestige for you.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 12:57
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, You almost have to feel sorry for those prestige whores. If your life is spent chasing prestige, chances are you lead an insecure and shallow life.
You mean people like OP, who agonize over meaningless numbers and meaningless social implications?
I mean anyone so singularly focused on prestige
Anonymous
04/10/2025 12:57
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:I'm not an Ivy grad, nor do I have Ivy aspirations for my kids, but MY GOD the level of insecurity it takes to compile this data, care about it, and create a post.
This is unhinged. I am begging you to go outside and get some sunshine.
This took 5 min on chatgpt. Get with the times old man.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 12:56
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
Anonymous wrote:OP, You almost have to feel sorry for those prestige whores. If your life is spent chasing prestige, chances are you lead an insecure and shallow life.
You mean people like OP, who agonize over meaningless numbers and meaningless social implications?
Anonymous
04/10/2025 12:56
Subject: Ivy Strivers have explaining to do
I think this obsession with prestige is a mental illness