Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 12:47     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many unused/underutilized factories here that could be put back in use.


With outdated equipment.


And lacking updated electrical and fire suppression systems and probably filled with asbestos.

But yeah, yank on those bootstraps, children of Florida, and build your way into being fully prepared for your next hurricane.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 12:47     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many unused/underutilized factories here that could be put back in use.


So are you investing in one?

Who will work there?


NP. Anyone who needs a job. Anyone who recently lost their job. What kind of question is that?


So, we actually know this isn't true. There are jobs that Americans simply won't take, even the long term unemployed - particularly in the ag sector but also assembly line jobs.

And a lot of the layoffs in white collar sectors mean people cannot support their families on blue collar wages. People are not fungible like that. It's fun to say "well they should sell their houses and move for a factory job" but that's not what happens in reality. (That's also why federal layoffs will not fix the teacher shortage, BTW.)
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 12:37     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Cocoa is extreeeeeeemly expensive!

So that's a great example of an American co Hersey's feeling the effects of global economics.

It is 2025 - isolationism is a death sentence for any country. You can be rich or poor, you CANNOT go it alone.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 12:35     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many unused/underutilized factories here that could be put back in use.


So are you investing in one?

Who will work there?


When will the factories be up and running and what will those jobs pay? Will they pay a living wage?

Will Americans be willing to pay much, much more for products the factory produces than we pay currently for goods made in China?
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 12:00     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The answer is very little.
So take for instance the rare clothes made in USA (super hard to find). Maybe they are buying US cotton. Even so, doubtful they are buying US made thread or zippers or snaps. And their sewing machines probably have at least components made abroad, if not the whole machine.

Or Fiestaware—made in the U.S. I don’t know where they source the ceramic clay—maybe US? But I’m sure they get some dyes and maybe glaze components from abroad and probably the same issue with machinery.

These are the examples I can think of that are probably mostly made in U.S. Electronics and appliances and stuff are much harder because, even when partially made here, small components are almost never made here since it is so much cheaper to make abroad.


So, now it has to be made in USA, on machines made in the USA, with material made in the USA?

Fixed cost usually doesn't contribute much to the final product price.


I think OPs question was about price increases. So you may buy hersheys chocolate made in PA but if they are importing cocoa and vanilla that is subject to tariffs, those prices will increase and they will potentially lay off or furlough American workers as consumer demand drops. That’s true for basically every product made in America. It’s unusual to be able to fully source from America. Back in the pandemic, a lot of American factories stood idle because they couldn’t get certain key components from abroad. Were all just so interconnected now — you can’t unmake the omelette.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:55     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many unused/underutilized factories here that could be put back in use.


Yeah just whip up a chip foundry in an old sock factory from the 70s.


With leaking roof...



Many of those old factories also have major toxic contamination — you can’t pay anyone to take them off your hands because of the liability associated with them.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:55     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many unused/underutilized factories here that could be put back in use.


So are you investing in one?

Who will work there?


NP. Anyone who needs a job. Anyone who recently lost their job. What kind of question is that?
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:38     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many unused/underutilized factories here that could be put back in use.


Yeah just whip up a chip foundry in an old sock factory from the 70s.


We have chip foundries in the US.


And old sock factories. Probably not together though.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:27     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many unused/underutilized factories here that could be put back in use.


Yeah just whip up a chip foundry in an old sock factory from the 70s.


We have chip foundries in the US.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:26     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:Food is not 100% made in the USA.
Much of the fertilizer comes from Canada



Nobody cares about your Canadian potash. Go make your own.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:24     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many unused/underutilized factories here that could be put back in use.


Yeah just whip up a chip foundry in an old sock factory from the 70s.


With leaking roof...

Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:22     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even food relies on imported inputs like fertilizers and equipment. Also imported (undocumented) workers who are going away so labor costs will be going up, if farms can even hire enough. So, food prices will go up too. And this doesn't even factor in farms that may go out of business when they lose export markets.


Most planting and harvesting workers are not undocumented. They are in the US legally but temporarily. They are paid very little for specially skilled work (not anybody can do it) and work in crappy conditions but please don't mistake that for being undocumented.
People working in animal husbandry and slaughterhouses are more likely to be undocumented.


Which is also food.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:21     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many unused/underutilized factories here that could be put back in use.


So are you investing in one?

Who will work there?


Maybe the govt workers that got laid off? Remember when biden told auto workers to learn to code? Maybe the govt workers should learn to weld?


It was coal miners, not auto workers. Coding pays better and gives you more flexibility than coal mining, a job that has been going extict for decades. Telling people you'll pay them to learn to do a better job is not the same as telling people they should take a worse job that doesn't exist.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:21     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
Food is not 100% made in the USA.
Much of the fertilizer comes from Canada

Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 11:18     Subject: Beyond food is anythng 100% made in the USA
I think Corningware is made in Corning, NY.