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Anonymous wrote:Felt like I was back on Park Avenue watching all the Office workers commute and wind and dine on the street. Granted it was a Thursday night unlike when I went to Rome and Florence, I noticed the latter two did not have that vibe at all.

Do basically all the hustlers of Italy migrate to Milan? It seems to be the only place with decent jobs and offices of large corporations.

Also, does anyone have experience working in Milan or doing business there? Seems like a big expat community but all the workers I heard were speaking solely Italian so might be hard to integrate

Sounds like you might like Epcot

There are also a lot of mandarin speakers due to the garment trade

Northern Italy is very industrial.

I remember being surprised by this from our first trip abroad, 35 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Felt like I was back on Park Avenue watching all the Office workers commute and wind and dine on the street. Granted it was a Thursday night unlike when I went to Rome and Florence, I noticed the latter two did not have that vibe at all.

Do basically all the hustlers of Italy migrate to Milan? It seems to be the only place with decent jobs and offices of large corporations.

Also, does anyone have experience working in Milan or doing business there? Seems like a big expat community but all the workers I heard were speaking solely Italian so might be hard to integrate

Sounds like you might like Epcot

Not the OP, but I liked EPCOT.

We visited Milan for a couple days and while it was fine, it doesn’t compare to the more popular Italian cities. We ended up in Milan by chance. Flying into Rome and Venice were twice the price of flying into Milan, so we flew into Milan. While we didn’t love Milan, but I’m glad to have visited the city.

Florence was our favorite city and where we spent most of our time. We also went to Venice. Luckily, we didn’t encounter the hordes of crowds that are usually associated with Venice. There were plenty of tourists, but it wasn’t terrible. At the end of our trip we went to Lake Como, which was probably the least favorite part of our trip. The lake, mountains and views are impossibly beautiful, but the village actually felt like EPCOT. Nothing wrong with EPCOT, but Como probably felt the least authentic of our trip to Italy. It surely didn’t help that it was so crowded that it felt like we were in a theme park.

Anonymous wrote:Felt like I was back on Park Avenue watching all the Office workers commute and wind and dine on the street. Granted it was a Thursday night unlike when I went to Rome and Florence, I noticed the latter two did not have that vibe at all.

Do basically all the hustlers of Italy migrate to Milan? It seems to be the only place with decent jobs and offices of large corporations.

Also, does anyone have experience working in Milan or doing business there? Seems like a big expat community but all the workers I heard were speaking solely Italian so might be hard to integrate

Sounds like you might like Epcot

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Anonymous wrote:Milan is very industrial. Much of the manufacturuing, steel, car productio and similar is from that area.

There is almost no auto production in Italy anymore. Pharmaceuticals are the biggest Italian import, most out of Milan area. And luxury goods of course. And banking. And insurance…

I’m pretty sure VW has manufacturing in Verona, Italy.

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Anonymous wrote:Milan sustained very heavy bombing during WWII, which is a reason that it doesn’t look as old as other Italian cities.

I didn’t know this. Thanks for sharing (not OP)

Last supper was almost destroyed! A bomb missed it by *this* much

How many people understand where "The Last Supper" is painted?

Anonymous wrote:Felt like I was back on Park Avenue watching all the Office workers commute and wind and dine on the street. Granted it was a Thursday night unlike when I went to Rome and Florence, I noticed the latter two did not have that vibe at all.

Do basically all the hustlers of Italy migrate to Milan? It seems to be the only place with decent jobs and offices of large corporations.

Also, does anyone have experience working in Milan or doing business there? Seems like a big expat community but all the workers I heard were speaking solely Italian so might be hard to integrate

Lived there for five years. Barely any “expats” compared to other EU capitals (Milan is far and beyond the business capital of Italy). Multinationals have the bare minimum of offices in Italy because too bureaucratic, chaotic and expensive to have employees. There are many immigrants though.

To answer your question, it is extremely hard to truly integrate professionally in Italy as a foreigner. The average salary in Milan is 1,200€ for an office job and a studio is 700€ about, so there is no reason to try to work there as a foreigner.

Anonymous wrote:Milan is very industrial. Much of the manufacturuing, steel, car productio and similar is from that area.

There is almost no auto production in Italy anymore. Pharmaceuticals are the biggest Italian import, most out of Milan area. And luxury goods of course. And banking. And insurance…

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Felt like I was back on Park Avenue watching all the Office workers commute and wind and dine on the street. Granted it was a Thursday night unlike when I went to Rome and Florence, I noticed the latter two did not have that vibe at all.

Do basically all the hustlers of Italy migrate to Milan? It seems to be the only place with decent jobs and offices of large corporations.

Also, does anyone have experience working in Milan or doing business there? Seems like a big expat community but all the workers I heard were speaking solely Italian so might be hard to integrate

lol, this is exactly what I felt when watching videos of Milan. besides the Cathedral there was nothing that seemed ancient.

There are many very old buildings but are closed to public. Also Milan was massively bombed during WW2. I heard that the rubble was moved somewhere in the suburbs towards Malpensa. Apparently visible but I don’t know where it is exactly.

Anonymous wrote:Milan was always like this. You didn't know?

Why do you feel the need to broadcast your cultural ignorance, OP? Did you think that every single part of Europe is a romantic locale with picturesque ruins?

This is really rude. Not everyone knows.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Milan sustained very heavy bombing during WWII, which is a reason that it doesn’t look as old as other Italian cities.

I didn’t know this. Thanks for sharing (not OP)

Last supper was almost destroyed! A bomb missed it by *this* much