OP you should reach out to Eastern and see if they can get you in touch with any of the Whitman cluster kids. I think there are 1-2 in DD's grade this year and it's probably similar for the other grades. They can give you the best sense of whether it's worth it and the differences in the experience.

Anonymous wrote:Pyle is such a bubble with so many social issues, especially among girls. Eastern's social atmosphere is so much more relaxed and more representative of the real world.

In what way? The humanities kids who are mostly white are artificially cohorted into special classes away from the rest of the school that is majority minority. It's a great program but I wouldn't say it has a more relaxed social environment. There are cliques just like any place else. I guess DD would say the difference is that for certain kids it's easier to find your clique there, like if you're a drama kid.

Shout out for Mrs Ray, whose class was amazing!

I feel for you OP, making these choices is so hard. It seems like you probably can’t go wrong either way.
We chose a further away magnet for our oldest and don’t regret it. But I think there could have been some real pros to staying with our homeshcool too.

Pyle is such a bubble with so many social issues, especially among girls. Eastern's social atmosphere is so much more relaxed and more representative of the real world.

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Anonymous wrote:Pyle. Friends are so important.

I'm a huge Eastern booster (particularly for quirky kids) but if he has friends going to Pyle, I'd stick with it. The education at Eastern is very good, and very well coordinated across the magnet classes, but some of the best parts of Eastern for my mid were the social piece and the extracurriculars. If your child has a good social circle and extracurriculars would be hard due to distance, it's a less compelling situation.

Ugh. Could we stop with the “quirky kids” stereotype”? It’s such a lame way to reinforce the mean girls view of the world - that some kids are cool and some kids are “quirky” and the cool kids shouldn’t hang with the quirky kids. Blech.

I don't think it's like that. NP.
I'm not sure why you think quirky is an insult. The Eastern kids can have pretty specialized interests like one of DD's friends wrote a book, another writes poetry. When DD reads a good book she did not have any friends at her home school to talk to about it but at Eastern there are plenty of kids who when hearing that would say what book and then go out and read it too. The kids are not all like this though. There are plenty of kids you might think are not quirky, but they choose to go to Eastern to be around the the kids who are really into reading, writing, theatre because they think those topics are cool and those kids are cool.

+1 I kind of think PP doesn't have middle/high school aged kids, because "popular" isn't really a thing anymore. There are kids who adopt a preppy aesthetic, but there is no monoculture that resembles popularity in the form it would have taken in a John Hughes movie.

In this case, quirky is a shorthand for "has unique interests and likes to talk about them." If a kid has unique interests, then being with other kids who share them is good.

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Anonymous wrote:Pyle. Friends are so important.

I'm a huge Eastern booster (particularly for quirky kids) but if he has friends going to Pyle, I'd stick with it. The education at Eastern is very good, and very well coordinated across the magnet classes, but some of the best parts of Eastern for my mid were the social piece and the extracurriculars. If your child has a good social circle and extracurriculars would be hard due to distance, it's a less compelling situation.

Ugh. Could we stop with the “quirky kids” stereotype”? It’s such a lame way to reinforce the mean girls view of the world - that some kids are cool and some kids are “quirky” and the cool kids shouldn’t hang with the quirky kids. Blech.

I don't think it's like that. NP.
I'm not sure why you think quirky is an insult. The Eastern kids can have pretty specialized interests like one of DD's friends wrote a book, another writes poetry. When DD reads a good book she did not have any friends at her home school to talk to about it but at Eastern there are plenty of kids who when hearing that would say what book and then go out and read it too. The kids are not all like this though. There are plenty of kids you might think are not quirky, but they choose to go to Eastern to be around the the kids who are really into reading, writing, theatre because they think those topics are cool and those kids are cool.

OP’s words.

Not your business or right to police others’ descriptions of their own kids.

You are lame for trying to dictate descriptions.

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Anonymous wrote:Pyle. Friends are so important.

I'm a huge Eastern booster (particularly for quirky kids) but if he has friends going to Pyle, I'd stick with it. The education at Eastern is very good, and very well coordinated across the magnet classes, but some of the best parts of Eastern for my mid were the social piece and the extracurriculars. If your child has a good social circle and extracurriculars would be hard due to distance, it's a less compelling situation.

Ugh. Could we stop with the “quirky kids” stereotype”? It’s such a lame way to reinforce the mean girls view of the world - that some kids are cool and some kids are “quirky” and the cool kids shouldn’t hang with the quirky kids. Blech.

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Anonymous wrote:How does he feel about it, OP? Our kid expressed a strong preference to stay at home MS to be with friends and avoid a very long bus ride. We let her decide.

We've talked to him about it and he's interested but nervous about the potential change. We won't force him to do it and are laying out the pluses and minuses (thanks to those who have commented!) so we can consider it as a family. He's worried about leaving friends but likes the curriculum of the magnet a lot.

Honestly, as a parent, the bold troubles me, particularly at middle school age. Yes, it’s normal to feel nervous about potential change. But life is full of potential change, and the answer isn’t avoiding change. I’d prefer to encourage my kid by acknowledging the fear of change but also considering what can be good about the change, how it feels to go thru change, what tools we have to manage change and that it’s OK to try something and have it not work out (I.e. try the school and go back to home school I’d something is not working &can’t be addressed). There’s a sweet spot between forcing a child to go and reinforcing fear and avoidance. Old friends are important, but the ability to make new friends in a new environment is an important skill to practice.

Anonymous wrote:Pyle. Friends are so important.

This. That’s why we declined magnet and stayed at Pyle.

Anonymous wrote:The magnets are mainly for bragging rights.
Being able today things like “ offered a spot”
Your smart kid will be fine at Pyle. Their social like matters too so much at this age, if he’s quickly but has a group of friends I would prioritize that.

We are a family that is not interested in bragging rights.

The magnet at Eastern was a life changing experience for our DC. It stoked her intellectual curiosity. The friends she made there have been lifelong. She learned to write in a way that was critical to her success in HS, college and grad school. The writing instruction at Eastern is at a level above that offered in any MCPS middle school and all but the IB HS programs. Eastern is a unique opportunity. As long as your kid likes history and reading, and has an open mind in terms of racial and socioeconomic diversity, it will be a good experience.

Bus is long but kids socialize, have down time or do homework.

Will your kid be OK at Pyle? Yes, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Pyle. Friends are so important.

I'm a huge Eastern booster (particularly for quirky kids) but if he has friends going to Pyle, I'd stick with it. The education at Eastern is very good, and very well coordinated across the magnet classes, but some of the best parts of Eastern for my mid were the social piece and the extracurriculars. If your child has a good social circle and extracurriculars would be hard due to distance, it's a less compelling situation.

OP - thanks for the insight! Less worried about extracurriculars right now but am happy for him with his friends and feeling good about that part. Of course, who knows if he’ll be able to maintain current friendships at Pyle - it is massive. But he’s leaning toward Pyle for this reason.

Anonymous wrote:Pyle. Friends are so important.

I'm a huge Eastern booster (particularly for quirky kids) but if he has friends going to Pyle, I'd stick with it. The education at Eastern is very good, and very well coordinated across the magnet classes, but some of the best parts of Eastern for my mid were the social piece and the extracurriculars. If your child has a good social circle and extracurriculars would be hard due to distance, it's a less compelling situation.

Anonymous wrote:The magnets are mainly for bragging rights.
Being able today things like “ offered a spot”
Your smart kid will be fine at Pyle. Their social like matters too so much at this age, if he’s quickly but has a group of friends I would prioritize that.

Its so true. I feel a lot of parents want to be able to just state that their kid is smarter than the rest of the kids staying at the home school. Friends are important, middle school transition is already hard. No need to add the extra stress of commute and making completely new friends.