Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other POV. There’s not much there there at W&M. The campus doesn’t make up for the unfun of Williamsburg. It’s needlessly “rigorous” and therefore unnecessarily competitive. Obviously many love it. It’s a self-selecting group.

I wouldn't say it's competitive at all. I don't think people compete against each other.

Not competitive at all? I'm not sure it's a college then.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other POV. There’s not much there there at W&M. The campus doesn’t make up for the unfun of Williamsburg. It’s needlessly “rigorous” and therefore unnecessarily competitive. Obviously many love it. It’s a self-selecting group.

I wouldn't say it's competitive at all. I don't think people compete against each other.

Not competitive at all? I'm not sure it's a college then.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other POV. There’s not much there there at W&M. The campus doesn’t make up for the unfun of Williamsburg. It’s needlessly “rigorous” and therefore unnecessarily competitive. Obviously many love it. It’s a self-selecting group.

I wouldn't say it's competitive at all. I don't think people compete against each other.

+1. That’s not the culture. This is someone with No WM first hand knowledge. And fundamentally, I question “needlessly rigorous”. It is, rigorous, but like many schools that can be major dependent. But, I thought you went to college to get an education? It isn’t like all classes are curved or something.

It's not for everyone, right? This is a view from people who did not find W&M a good fit.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:P&Q 2025 Rankings:

Outcomes
#33 William & Mary
#72 Tulane

Overall
#20 William & Mary
#35 Tulane

Both are solid for business but William & Mary has better outcomes. Tulane's B School has a lower acceptance rate but not as good salaries, employment rates, or internships.

As for overall school rankings, US News has the two schools relatively close in ranking while Forbes has them a bit further apart. For 2025, Forbes has William & Mary at #55 and Tulane at #147.

It seems like William & Mary is the clear choice for fit and opportunity here.

Kid wants ECON not business. Econ dept of Tulane is way ahead of W&M.

Source?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other POV. There’s not much there there at W&M. The campus doesn’t make up for the unfun of Williamsburg. It’s needlessly “rigorous” and therefore unnecessarily competitive. Obviously many love it. It’s a self-selecting group.

I wouldn't say it's competitive at all. I don't think people compete against each other.

+1. That’s not the culture. This is someone with No WM first hand knowledge. And fundamentally, I question “needlessly rigorous”. It is, rigorous, but like many schools that can be major dependent. But, I thought you went to college to get an education? It isn’t like all classes are curved or something.

Anonymous wrote:P&Q 2025 Rankings:

Outcomes
#33 William & Mary
#72 Tulane

Overall
#20 William & Mary
#35 Tulane

Both are solid for business but William & Mary has better outcomes. Tulane's B School has a lower acceptance rate but not as good salaries, employment rates, or internships.

As for overall school rankings, US News has the two schools relatively close in ranking while Forbes has them a bit further apart. For 2025, Forbes has William & Mary at #55 and Tulane at #147.

It seems like William & Mary is the clear choice for fit and opportunity here.

Kid wants ECON not business. Econ dept of Tulane is way ahead of W&M.

I went to Tulane and my partner went to W&M. I highly recommend TU and loved my experience there. However if he's not really into the party scene, W&M is probably a better fit.

TU is an incredible experience, great education, and I had a lot of solid connections in the Northeast after grad. But it's definitely a work hard, party hard vibe.

Anonymous wrote:The other POV. There’s not much there there at W&M. The campus doesn’t make up for the unfun of Williamsburg. It’s needlessly “rigorous” and therefore unnecessarily competitive. Obviously many love it. It’s a self-selecting group.

I wouldn't say it's competitive at all. I don't think people compete against each other.

P&Q 2025 Rankings:

Outcomes
#33 William & Mary
#72 Tulane

Overall
#20 William & Mary
#35 Tulane

Both are solid for business but William & Mary has better outcomes. Tulane's B School has a lower acceptance rate but not as good salaries, employment rates, or internships.

As for overall school rankings, US News has the two schools relatively close in ranking while Forbes has them a bit further apart. For 2025, Forbes has William & Mary at #55 and Tulane at #147.

It seems like William & Mary is the clear choice for fit and opportunity here.

Anonymous wrote:W and m and not close

From a Business Econ point of view you are right. Not even close, Tulane hands down. But as far as Fit for OP’s kid, W&M would be better.

Anonymous wrote:The other POV. There’s not much there there at W&M. The campus doesn’t make up for the unfun of Williamsburg. It’s needlessly “rigorous” and therefore unnecessarily competitive. Obviously many love it. It’s a self-selecting group.

My son is at William and Mary now and very active in AMP (Alma Mater Productions). Check it out on Instagram (ampwm). They put on a ton of school events-- more than I've seen at any other school-- and it's a big reason he chose it over his other options. Last weekend they had Spa Night at the Student Union and a watch party for the women's basketball team NCAA tournament game. During the week they also brought in Jeannette Walls (Glass Castle author) and had a bunch of student rock bands perform. That's just this week, and those are only the things he mentioned to me. Every week and weekend there are multiple choices of things to do beyond just fraternity/sorority parties, club parties and events, and whatever kids might just want to do with their friends. It is really great. And Williamsburg is right there at the edge of campus, and has lots of modern shops, bars and restaurants in addition to the colonial part. He loves it, it's a great fit for him. Smart, kind kids, small classes, and a great liberal arts feel but bigger than the usual liberal arts school. And we're out of state, but it's still a bargain compared to most private liberal arts schools.

W and m and not close

Tulane has a much better business/econ program, but if the social scene isn't the right fit I guess W&M will do just fine. Tulane is in New Orleans, so it's in a major urban environment AND one that's universally known as a "party town" ... no surprise some of that seeps into the school culture.

Easiest this or that ever. William and Mary.

Based on your kid’s profile, not wanting a big party scene, W&M might be a better fit.

Tulane has a better Econ dept. W&M barely ranks in ECON on real faculty publishing rankings:
https://ideas.repec.org/top/top.usecondept.html