Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 11:37     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Nobody who guts the IRS is serious about reducing debt.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 11:18     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:Our national debt is truly shocking. Just look at this “debt clock:”

https://usadebtclock.com/


This debt could get out of control and even become an existential threat. But I do not hear anyone in our national media sounding the alarm.

Why is that?


The clock was started by another NYC real estate heir whose father actually made them wealthy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Durst

Bonus, his son was an infamous murderer.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 11:04     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You cannot be serious OP. There have been several posts on here about the House GOP’s plans to make this situation significantly worse with further tax cuts and spending cuts that are aimed to curb economic growth.

Consistently, conservatives have avoided those threads and they quickly dropped off the first page.

Democrats do care about the debt. They want to let tax cuts a loopholes that benefit the rich and corporations expire to raise revenue. Those, combined with targeted cuts that are not aimed to hurt our poorest citizens will help the situation.

But increasing unemployment, tariffs, extending and increasing tax cuts, cutting funds that promote growth and leave our poorest citizens at risk isn’t going to do that.

By the way, neither is mass deportations, as seen by Florida’s recent moves to roll back child labor laws.


Democrats espouse Modern Monetary Theory that says higher spending and debt doesn't matter, as you just print more money.

Trump wants to eliminate the debt ceiling. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna184820
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 11:00     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

This thread will die quickly. The only engagement will be, "well, but DEMOCRATS...."

Meanwhile, Republicans will just keep adding and adding, while cutting services and programs that amount to pennies in comparison.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 11:00     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You cannot be serious OP. There have been several posts on here about the House GOP’s plans to make this situation significantly worse with further tax cuts and spending cuts that are aimed to curb economic growth.

Consistently, conservatives have avoided those threads and they quickly dropped off the first page.

Democrats do care about the debt. They want to let tax cuts a loopholes that benefit the rich and corporations expire to raise revenue. Those, combined with targeted cuts that are not aimed to hurt our poorest citizens will help the situation.

But increasing unemployment, tariffs, extending and increasing tax cuts, cutting funds that promote growth and leave our poorest citizens at risk isn’t going to do that.

By the way, neither is mass deportations, as seen by Florida’s recent moves to roll back child labor laws.


Democrats espouse Modern Monetary Theory that says higher spending and debt doesn't matter, as you just print more money.


"MMT" in practice actually started with Ronny Reagan and Dick Cheney. They just didn't call it that.

If this isn't MMT, I don't know what is:

Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 10:57     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You cannot be serious OP. There have been several posts on here about the House GOP’s plans to make this situation significantly worse with further tax cuts and spending cuts that are aimed to curb economic growth.

Consistently, conservatives have avoided those threads and they quickly dropped off the first page.

Democrats do care about the debt. They want to let tax cuts a loopholes that benefit the rich and corporations expire to raise revenue. Those, combined with targeted cuts that are not aimed to hurt our poorest citizens will help the situation.

But increasing unemployment, tariffs, extending and increasing tax cuts, cutting funds that promote growth and leave our poorest citizens at risk isn’t going to do that.

By the way, neither is mass deportations, as seen by Florida’s recent moves to roll back child labor laws.


Democrats espouse Modern Monetary Theory that says higher spending and debt doesn't matter, as you just print more money.


It's not just democrats. Republicans spend like crazy, too. They just have different areas they want to spend on. And they add in tax cuts, and that's not sustainable by any measure.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 10:56     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:Our national debt is truly shocking. Just look at this “debt clock:”

https://usadebtclock.com/


This debt could get out of control and even become an existential threat. But I do not hear anyone in our national media sounding the alarm.

Why is that?


Trump wants to increase it even more trillions. Gotta take care of billionaires.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 10:22     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:You cannot be serious OP. There have been several posts on here about the House GOP’s plans to make this situation significantly worse with further tax cuts and spending cuts that are aimed to curb economic growth.

Consistently, conservatives have avoided those threads and they quickly dropped off the first page.

Democrats do care about the debt. They want to let tax cuts a loopholes that benefit the rich and corporations expire to raise revenue. Those, combined with targeted cuts that are not aimed to hurt our poorest citizens will help the situation.

But increasing unemployment, tariffs, extending and increasing tax cuts, cutting funds that promote growth and leave our poorest citizens at risk isn’t going to do that.

By the way, neither is mass deportations, as seen by Florida’s recent moves to roll back child labor laws.


Democrats espouse Modern Monetary Theory that says higher spending and debt doesn't matter, as you just print more money.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 10:20     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our national debt is truly shocking. Just look at this “debt clock:”

https://usadebtclock.com/


This debt could get out of control and even become an existential threat. But I do not hear anyone in our national media sounding the alarm.

Why is that?


Letting the TCJA tax cuts expire would reduce the growth in national debt by trillions of dollars over the next decade.


In other words:

- raise the percentage of taxes collected every year?


Americans voted in MAGA to stop Democrat insanity.



I agree the National debt is a problem, but there are only two way to address this problem raising taxes or cutting spending. In FY 24, the deficit was 1.7 Trillion. If you only want to reduce spending. You would have to eliminate all “discretionary” spending. So no more DOD, EPA, FDA, USDA, etc. Balancing the budget without increasing taxes would literally require us to eliminate the military entirely. The is no reasonable solution to the budget that does not involve some level of tax increases.


Tax increases without increasing tax rates. Each year, the economy grows and provides more revenue, and you control your spending to not increase accordingly.
The only problem is the interest number that is rising each year.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 10:19     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our national debt is truly shocking. Just look at this “debt clock:”

https://usadebtclock.com/


This debt could get out of control and even become an existential threat. But I do not hear anyone in our national media sounding the alarm.

Why is that?


Letting the TCJA tax cuts expire would reduce the growth in national debt by trillions of dollars over the next decade.


But the debt would keep increasing, with the interest costs going higher and higher.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 09:36     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Conservative fixation on debt is a cover for cutting services to the bottom half of Americans to facilitate tax cuts for the top 0.01%. They don’t care about the national debt; they only care about making the billionaires wealthier. The idea that President Musk is concerned about fraud, waste, and abuse is comical. He is the embodiment of fraud, waste, and abuse.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 09:30     Subject: Re:Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

I agree the National debt is a problem, but there are only two way to address this problem raising taxes or cutting spending.


The third option is inflation.

And, yes, we need to balance the budget using all three mechanisms. This will necessarily include cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and the military.

I have no idea why the press does not seem to want to address any of this, since the debt is probably the US's biggest problem. And, no, nothing that the Trump administration is doing right now is actually helping to solve any of it in any sort of meaningful way. At most, it amounts to the arranging of deck chairs on the Titanic. We need to go after the three largest expenses and also increase revenue. Part of increasing revenue is increasing GDP, and the current tariff situation precludes that. The whole situation is a big mess and neither the majority of voters nor the press (nor Congress) seems to care.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 09:20     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:Our national debt is truly shocking. Just look at this “debt clock:”

https://usadebtclock.com/


This debt could get out of control and even become an existential threat. But I do not hear anyone in our national media sounding the alarm.

Why is that?

Because the national debt only matters when Democrats are in charge.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 09:08     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our national debt is truly shocking. Just look at this “debt clock:”

https://usadebtclock.com/


This debt could get out of control and even become an existential threat. But I do not hear anyone in our national media sounding the alarm.

Why is that?


Letting the TCJA tax cuts expire would reduce the growth in national debt by trillions of dollars over the next decade.


In other words:

- raise the percentage of taxes collected every year?


Americans voted in MAGA to stop Democrat insanity.



Teo GOP presidents, Bush 43 and Trump 45, are responsible for 57% of the total national debt. How is it democratic insanity when Trump 47's proposals will grow the debt by another 5-11 TRILLION dollars?
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 09:07     Subject: Why is the media not talking about the massive U.S. government debt?

Anonymous wrote:Our national debt is truly shocking. Just look at this “debt clock:”

https://usadebtclock.com/


This debt could get out of control and even become an existential threat. But I do not hear anyone in our national media sounding the alarm.

Why is that?


Debt only matters when the Dems are in the White House.