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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Most of our concepts of freedom that came out of the Enlightenment have Christian underpinnings. People - including many modern Christians - just don't want to remember that.

"Christian underpinnings..." nice equivocation so you don't get skewered again for saying they are christian inventions. Christianity is a critical part of european history and everything which comes from european history has "Christian underpinnings..." including salt cod and the road system. Doesn't mean those freedom values are inherent in the religion, because they are not.

“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)

Try again

Slavery had been practiced and considered as the default norm by almost all major civilizations until Christianity came along. It was only abolished on a large scale when the white Christian men who held power abolished it.

If you actually believe this statement makes any significant or compelling point you are an idiot.

White Christian men did abolish slavery.

White Christian men also fought for slavery. Fortunately those white Christian men lost.

They also did all the farming, the banking, the card-playing, the eating of steaks. They caught all the fish. They made all the pants. They did everything. They took all the dumps. They painted all the barns. They acted in all the plays. Some were unionists, some were secessionists. Some were even left-handed!

Saying "white Christian men" did any one thing any trying to attribute universal significance or values to that is just stupid.

Want to be less stupid? Then read this article: How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery. https://time.com/5171819/christianity-slavery-book-excerpt/

But I bet you don't want to be less stupid.

NP. Your response to the pp is shallow and facile on the face of it. Yes, Christians held slaves and justified it with bible passages--in the past. Then other Christians came along and abolished slavery--just like pp said--and today no Christians support slavery. What about that is hard to understand?

Plenty of churches work to help Afghani refugees.

I find your post puzzling, OP, as you state a broad, vague statement as a fact, with no support.

Advocate in what way? About what?

What examples do you have of whatever it is that you are talking about?

They only pretend to care about others. It’s just a facade to make themselves look and better.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of our concepts of freedom that came out of the Enlightenment have Christian underpinnings. People - including many modern Christians - just don't want to remember that.

"Christian underpinnings..." nice equivocation so you don't get skewered again for saying they are christian inventions. Christianity is a critical part of european history and everything which comes from european history has "Christian underpinnings..." including salt cod and the road system. Doesn't mean those freedom values are inherent in the religion, because they are not.

“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)

Try again

Slavery had been practiced and considered as the default norm by almost all major civilizations until Christianity came along. It was only abolished on a large scale when the white Christian men who held power abolished it.

If you actually believe this statement makes any significant or compelling point you are an idiot.

White Christian men did abolish slavery.

White Christian men also fought for slavery. Fortunately those white Christian men lost.

They also did all the farming, the banking, the card-playing, the eating of steaks. They caught all the fish. They made all the pants. They did everything. They took all the dumps. They painted all the barns. They acted in all the plays. Some were unionists, some were secessionists. Some were even left-handed!

Saying "white Christian men" did any one thing any trying to attribute universal significance or values to that is just stupid.

Want to be less stupid? Then read this article: How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery. https://time.com/5171819/christianity-slavery-book-excerpt/

But I bet you don't want to be less stupid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of our concepts of freedom that came out of the Enlightenment have Christian underpinnings. People - including many modern Christians - just don't want to remember that.

"Christian underpinnings..." nice equivocation so you don't get skewered again for saying they are christian inventions. Christianity is a critical part of european history and everything which comes from european history has "Christian underpinnings..." including salt cod and the road system. Doesn't mean those freedom values are inherent in the religion, because they are not.

“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)

Try again

Slavery had been practiced and considered as the default norm by almost all major civilizations until Christianity came along. It was only abolished on a large scale when the white Christian men who held power abolished it.

Today there are more people enslaved on earth than ever before in human history, almost none of which are in historically Christian societies.

Would they have the same level of advocacy on behalf of the church of satan?

Jesuit Refugee Services are a major provider of services worldwide for people who are refugees due to religious discrimination among other reasons.

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has done a great deal of advocacy around immigration and other issues that impact religious minorities.

American Friends Committee, and Mennonite Central Committee are two other faith based organizations that are doing great work in this area.

Several churches advocate for religious minorities, including the Baptist Joint Committee (BJC), and the National Council of Churches (NCC), among others.

Baptist Joint Committee (BJC):
This national faith-based group focuses on protecting religious freedom for all, working to build unity among diverse groups, both religious and secular, and advocating for religious freedom through legal action, lobbying, and education.

21Wilberforce:
This organization is a Christian human rights advocacy group that believes in the inherent dignity and equal rights of all people, including freedom of religion.

National Council of Churches (NCC):
The NCC calls upon all Christians in the U.S. to seek understanding of issues related to religious freedom and to promote strategies in their own churches and communities that better represent the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Baptist World Alliance (BWA):
The BWA has programs and initiatives related to human rights, including religious freedom monitoring and advocacy, and has relevant commissions, such as the Commission on Religious Freedom.

United Methodist Church:
The United Methodist Church acknowledges its historical failings in upholding religious freedom and states its commitment to religious freedom for all, opposing any claims to impose one set of religious beliefs onto others.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find it puzzling?

My church does. I believe many churches and Christians do.

There was a huge sojourner rally recently that mostly Comprises liberal Christian’s .

See for example

https://sojo.net/tags/palestine

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2024-03/leaders-jerusalem-churches-strongly-condemn-deadly-attack-gaza.html

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5317736/faith-leaders-push-back-against-trump-cuts-and-what-they-see-as-erosion-of-democracy

https://www.umcjustice.org/latest/capitol-hill-faithful-witness-protests-begin-on-ash-wednesday-4333

Anonymous wrote:Do you find it puzzling?

My church does. I believe many churches and Christians do.

There was a huge sojourner rally recently that mostly Comprises liberal Christian’s .

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Anonymous wrote:Some religious people do, some don’t, kind of like how some atheists advocate for people who believe differently than they do, and some
spend their time on DCUM trying to own the religious people.

We don't really have to try. You kinda own yourselves.

+1 but sometimes you don’t know it

Anonymous wrote:Some religious people do, some don’t, kind of like how some atheists advocate for people who believe differently than they do, and some
spend their time on DCUM trying to own the religious people.

We don't really have to try. You kinda own yourselves.

Some religious people do, some don’t, kind of like how some atheists advocate for people who believe differently than they do, and some
spend their time on DCUM trying to own the religious people.

Anonymous wrote:What religious minorities do you think are not being advocated for?

Any religious minority that people don't like, maybe because they look funny or believe weird things , e.g., things that the majority of people don't believe.