Anonymous
03/26/2025 14:08
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:Most of my friends have cancelled their trips to the us (I am from london)
I’ve got friends arriving from London this weekend. I think their chances of getting in are less than 50% but they won’t cancel.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 14:05
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Most of my friends have cancelled their trips to the us (I am from london)
Anonymous
03/26/2025 13:52
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:Those canadians pumped billions of dollars into the economy of several key states most particularly Florida and NJ and the part of NJ is Atlantic County ie the Trumpy part.
Cape May County, too. Going to be a great summer along the south Jersey shore, seeing the MAGA get knocked down a few pegs. Wondering if they’re even going to have any employees with Trump’s border crackdown.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 13:21
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:Yes, unless we're constantly showering Europe with money from our tax payers, we're on the outs.
Fair weather friends. Who needs them?
BTW, dcumers, get off this website and go sign up to fight in Ukraine.
It’s more the whole “throwing people into dank solitary prison cells incommunicado for two weeks because CBP didn’t like some anti-Israeli government comment on their Facebook wall” thing. Plus the whole “who wants to spend money on people that insult you” thing.
Think about who vacations in Russia, and imagine that we are now Russia. Good job, now you understand.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 13:08
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Yes, unless we're constantly showering Europe with money from our tax payers, we're on the outs.
Fair weather friends. Who needs them?
BTW, dcumers, get off this website and go sign up to fight in Ukraine.
Fair weather friends. Who needs them?
BTW, dcumers, get off this website and go sign up to fight in Ukraine.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 11:26
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:My favorite AWFL (affluent white female liberal) sentence construction is: “You understand blah blah blah, right?” Voters love that!
Then how about you listen to economists or read some US history? MAGA by learning math and science.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 11:22
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anyone with any sense of cancelling their trip to the US right now.
Who wants to be questioned at the border for hours or thrown in detention for going on vacation?
Who wants to be questioned at the border for hours or thrown in detention for going on vacation?
Anonymous
03/26/2025 09:37
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My favorite AWFL (affluent white female liberal) sentence construction is: “You understand blah blah blah, right?” Voters love that!
Femsplaining at its best!
So the takeaway is you understand but do not care.
I understand. I also understand that the post this was responding to is entirely irrelevant to the conversation. The conversation is, to remind you, about foreign visitors rethinking travel to the US. It is NOT about the entire 2.3 trillion tourism industry as a whole. If you want to make a broader topic for discussion, please do so. Otherwise, it is usually helpful and polite when engaging ina conversation to keep to the topic. Otherwise you are just an annoyance blathering about things irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 09:20
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Yep. Delta Airlines made this announcement two weeks ago in their earnings report. The stock dropped accordingly. I need to go back and read what Marriott Hotels said in their guidance going forward, as I don’t remember if they addressed the matter and what was said. I don’t own the stock.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 09:15
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A gift link so you can read all about how the sticky orange idiot is driving down tourism with his reckless stupid behavior
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/26/travel/foreign-travel-to-united-states-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.604.GaMS.EtJDgJtt-uqo&smid=url-share
International tourists detained at U.S. borders. Steep tariffs imposed on trade partners. Threats against longtime allies.
The onslaught of contested policies and language by the Trump administration in recent weeks is causing tourists around the globe to either cancel or reconsider travel to the United States. A growing number of visitors say they feel unwelcome or unsafe and are reluctant to support the economy of a country that some foreign officials say is waging trade wars and destabilizing its allies. A draft of a new travel ban circulating through the administration could restrict citizens from up to 43 countries, including Belarus, Cambodia and St. Lucia, from entering the United States.
“So many Americans are looking to escape the tense and toxic atmosphere at home. Why would anyone want to visit, especially right now with all the arbitrary detentions at immigration?” said Mallory Henderson, 53, a marketing consultant in London who usually visits the United States twice a year, but canceled a trip to visit her brother and niece in Boston this Easter.
“It’s a really hostile and scary time, and quite frankly, there’s plenty of other inviting and pleasant places I can go to meet up with my family,” she said.
It's worth a read - not just anecdotes, but data showing tourism down.
I know, great, right? Who needs tourism! Other than it bringing $2.3 trillion to the US economy - or not!
This is misleading. While 2.3 trillion is the aggregate value of ALL travel and tourism in the US, only about 5% of that figure is attributable to international tourism.
"Visitors from many countries spend an average of over $4,000 per visit, and collectively contribute $155 billion in U.S. travel spending every year.""
https://www.ustravel.org/news/new-economic-forecast-highlights-growth-international-visits-us
You understand that the different sectors are dependent on each other for growth, right, and when one or more sectors fall, the others will fall too. So when tourism is down because of international travelers, and when tariffs hit the private sector and when the public sector is experience massive layoffs, it all cascades down.
Thanks for the femsplain.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 09:09
Subject: Re:‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
oh nice people yourself crashing planes, detaining legal immigrants, throwing vets under the bus, spreading measles, letting women go septic.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 09:07
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:Unpopular Democrats wishing economic problems on their own country so they can hopefully win elections without dropping support for violent illegal immigrants. Nice people.
It isn't a matter of wishing for economic problems. Trump is CREATING the problems with his bluster against Europe and Canada and his bluster about tariffs.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 08:50
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A gift link so you can read all about how the sticky orange idiot is driving down tourism with his reckless stupid behavior
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/26/travel/foreign-travel-to-united-states-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.604.GaMS.EtJDgJtt-uqo&smid=url-share
International tourists detained at U.S. borders. Steep tariffs imposed on trade partners. Threats against longtime allies.
The onslaught of contested policies and language by the Trump administration in recent weeks is causing tourists around the globe to either cancel or reconsider travel to the United States. A growing number of visitors say they feel unwelcome or unsafe and are reluctant to support the economy of a country that some foreign officials say is waging trade wars and destabilizing its allies. A draft of a new travel ban circulating through the administration could restrict citizens from up to 43 countries, including Belarus, Cambodia and St. Lucia, from entering the United States.
“So many Americans are looking to escape the tense and toxic atmosphere at home. Why would anyone want to visit, especially right now with all the arbitrary detentions at immigration?” said Mallory Henderson, 53, a marketing consultant in London who usually visits the United States twice a year, but canceled a trip to visit her brother and niece in Boston this Easter.
“It’s a really hostile and scary time, and quite frankly, there’s plenty of other inviting and pleasant places I can go to meet up with my family,” she said.
It's worth a read - not just anecdotes, but data showing tourism down.
I know, great, right? Who needs tourism! Other than it bringing $2.3 trillion to the US economy - or not!
This is misleading. While 2.3 trillion is the aggregate value of ALL travel and tourism in the US, only about 5% of that figure is attributable to international tourism.
"Visitors from many countries spend an average of over $4,000 per visit, and collectively contribute $155 billion in U.S. travel spending every year.""
https://www.ustravel.org/news/new-economic-forecast-highlights-growth-international-visits-us
You understand that the different sectors are dependent on each other for growth, right, and when one or more sectors fall, the others will fall too. So when tourism is down because of international travelers, and when tariffs hit the private sector and when the public sector is experience massive layoffs, it all cascades down.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 08:50
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Hegseth's and Vance's exchange on the Signal chat about "freeloading" and "pathetic" Europeans will no doubt endear us even more to European visitors.
Anonymous
03/26/2025 08:47
Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A gift link so you can read all about how the sticky orange idiot is driving down tourism with his reckless stupid behavior
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/26/travel/foreign-travel-to-united-states-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.604.GaMS.EtJDgJtt-uqo&smid=url-share
International tourists detained at U.S. borders. Steep tariffs imposed on trade partners. Threats against longtime allies.
The onslaught of contested policies and language by the Trump administration in recent weeks is causing tourists around the globe to either cancel or reconsider travel to the United States. A growing number of visitors say they feel unwelcome or unsafe and are reluctant to support the economy of a country that some foreign officials say is waging trade wars and destabilizing its allies. A draft of a new travel ban circulating through the administration could restrict citizens from up to 43 countries, including Belarus, Cambodia and St. Lucia, from entering the United States.
“So many Americans are looking to escape the tense and toxic atmosphere at home. Why would anyone want to visit, especially right now with all the arbitrary detentions at immigration?” said Mallory Henderson, 53, a marketing consultant in London who usually visits the United States twice a year, but canceled a trip to visit her brother and niece in Boston this Easter.
“It’s a really hostile and scary time, and quite frankly, there’s plenty of other inviting and pleasant places I can go to meet up with my family,” she said.
It's worth a read - not just anecdotes, but data showing tourism down.
I know, great, right? Who needs tourism! Other than it bringing $2.3 trillion to the US economy - or not!
This is misleading. While 2.3 trillion is the aggregate value of ALL travel and tourism in the US, only about 5% of that figure is attributable to international tourism.
"Visitors from many countries spend an average of over $4,000 per visit, and collectively contribute $155 billion in U.S. travel spending every year.""
https://www.ustravel.org/news/new-economic-forecast-highlights-growth-international-visits-us
Well I'm sure that's very reassuring to all the hotels, restaurants, and tour guides