Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 14:28     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


I can see that dumb people who don't understand economics have discovered DCUM
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 14:00     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

25% tariff on countries that buy oil from Venezuela.

He is actual implementing the carbon tariffs that liberals have been suggesting for decades.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 12:21     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


How? By making crops we can’t grow outside of greenhouses in the US and things we can’t manufacture but need to live more expensive? By destroying complex supply chains? He’s putting the cart before the horse. First you develop the capacity to make something, then you put a tariff on that one thing coming in from everywhere to encourage use of domestic capacity. He’s slapping tariffs on things like medications and food and the potash to grow food that people need, when we don’t have domestic capacity to produce it. And in some cases (like produced out of season and rare earth minerals) can’t produce it domestically. really can’t, And, in others, like manufacturing medicine it will take years to get domestic capacity online. In the meantime, Americans still need to buy the stuff, they just by less (hurt businesses) and pay more. Biden has it right with the CHIP Act. Bring plants online first. Then slap a tariff on foreign chips.

This is like Elmo and Doge taking a chainsaw to SSA. When they need a scalpel. Trump is taking the chainsaw tariff approach. When every reputable economist everywhere is saying use a scalpel.


That one is amazing, even for him. He keeps babbling that he needs NOTHING from Canada. Really? Where is he going to get the potash?

Aluminum, steel and lumber. The things needed to build the manufacturing plants he needs. He's just going to mow down forests for lumber. It doesn't matter that a lot of it is the wrong kind of lumber. Welcome to shoddy building practices, I guess?

Oh and the electricity in some states. Boy, putting a surcharge on that got his attention. "That's affecting people's actual lives. We can't have that." But he doesn't need anything. I guess the other stuff doesn't affect anyone.

I used to think that in business, if he went bankrupt oh well, walk away. He couldn't do that with a country, right? Maybe he can.

There's going to be long term damage. Trading partners are going elsewhere. Hardly anybody trusts him. I don't see trade coming back just because of an administration change whenever people clue in. Canada, the EU, the UK; why would they turn their backs on each other down the road just to go back to the States?


He may well starve us all.


Plus, the inability to refine the oil that he's going to drill for. Factor out the possibilities there.


Plus Northern states whose power grids rely on power from Canada. Better buy kindling. Next winter is going to be cold with the rolling blackouts.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 12:19     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


You’ll be relieved to know that every day, the US is becoming less influential and less of a superpower — thanks to your boy Trump. I’m sure that the businesses that are now failing because Trump is killing trade relationships appreciate all of the flexing.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 12:17     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


How? By making crops we can’t grow outside of greenhouses in the US and things we can’t manufacture but need to live more expensive? By destroying complex supply chains? He’s putting the cart before the horse. First you develop the capacity to make something, then you put a tariff on that one thing coming in from everywhere to encourage use of domestic capacity. He’s slapping tariffs on things like medications and food and the potash to grow food that people need, when we don’t have domestic capacity to produce it. And in some cases (like produced out of season and rare earth minerals) can’t produce it domestically. really can’t, And, in others, like manufacturing medicine it will take years to get domestic capacity online. In the meantime, Americans still need to buy the stuff, they just by less (hurt businesses) and pay more. Biden has it right with the CHIP Act. Bring plants online first. Then slap a tariff on foreign chips.

This is like Elmo and Doge taking a chainsaw to SSA. When they need a scalpel. Trump is taking the chainsaw tariff approach. When every reputable economist everywhere is saying use a scalpel.


That one is amazing, even for him. He keeps babbling that he needs NOTHING from Canada. Really? Where is he going to get the potash?

Aluminum, steel and lumber. The things needed to build the manufacturing plants he needs. He's just going to mow down forests for lumber. It doesn't matter that a lot of it is the wrong kind of lumber. Welcome to shoddy building practices, I guess?

Oh and the electricity in some states. Boy, putting a surcharge on that got his attention. "That's affecting people's actual lives. We can't have that." But he doesn't need anything. I guess the other stuff doesn't affect anyone.

I used to think that in business, if he went bankrupt oh well, walk away. He couldn't do that with a country, right? Maybe he can.

There's going to be long term damage. Trading partners are going elsewhere. Hardly anybody trusts him. I don't see trade coming back just because of an administration change whenever people clue in. Canada, the EU, the UK; why would they turn their backs on each other down the road just to go back to the States?


He may well starve us all.


Plus, the inability to refine the oil that he's going to drill for. Factor out the possibilities there.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 12:15     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


How? By making crops we can’t grow outside of greenhouses in the US and things we can’t manufacture but need to live more expensive? By destroying complex supply chains? He’s putting the cart before the horse. First you develop the capacity to make something, then you put a tariff on that one thing coming in from everywhere to encourage use of domestic capacity. He’s slapping tariffs on things like medications and food and the potash to grow food that people need, when we don’t have domestic capacity to produce it. And in some cases (like produced out of season and rare earth minerals) can’t produce it domestically. really can’t, And, in others, like manufacturing medicine it will take years to get domestic capacity online. In the meantime, Americans still need to buy the stuff, they just by less (hurt businesses) and pay more. Biden has it right with the CHIP Act. Bring plants online first. Then slap a tariff on foreign chips.

This is like Elmo and Doge taking a chainsaw to SSA. When they need a scalpel. Trump is taking the chainsaw tariff approach. When every reputable economist everywhere is saying use a scalpel.


That one is amazing, even for him. He keeps babbling that he needs NOTHING from Canada. Really? Where is he going to get the potash?

Aluminum, steel and lumber. The things needed to build the manufacturing plants he needs. He's just going to mow down forests for lumber. It doesn't matter that a lot of it is the wrong kind of lumber. Welcome to shoddy building practices, I guess?

Oh and the electricity in some states. Boy, putting a surcharge on that got his attention. "That's affecting people's actual lives. We can't have that." But he doesn't need anything. I guess the other stuff doesn't affect anyone.

I used to think that in business, if he went bankrupt oh well, walk away. He couldn't do that with a country, right? Maybe he can.

There's going to be long term damage. Trading partners are going elsewhere. Hardly anybody trusts him. I don't see trade coming back just because of an administration change whenever people clue in. Canada, the EU, the UK; why would they turn their backs on each other down the road just to go back to the States?


He may well starve us all.


I cannot fathom that food shortages could be a real thing, but... Trump.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 12:07     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Originally Liberation Day was going to be April 1 ,2025 but Trump is admittedly superstitious so they made it April 2. He didn't want to do it on April Fools Day.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 11:56     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


How? By making crops we can’t grow outside of greenhouses in the US and things we can’t manufacture but need to live more expensive? By destroying complex supply chains? He’s putting the cart before the horse. First you develop the capacity to make something, then you put a tariff on that one thing coming in from everywhere to encourage use of domestic capacity. He’s slapping tariffs on things like medications and food and the potash to grow food that people need, when we don’t have domestic capacity to produce it. And in some cases (like produced out of season and rare earth minerals) can’t produce it domestically. really can’t, And, in others, like manufacturing medicine it will take years to get domestic capacity online. In the meantime, Americans still need to buy the stuff, they just by less (hurt businesses) and pay more. Biden has it right with the CHIP Act. Bring plants online first. Then slap a tariff on foreign chips.

This is like Elmo and Doge taking a chainsaw to SSA. When they need a scalpel. Trump is taking the chainsaw tariff approach. When every reputable economist everywhere is saying use a scalpel.


That one is amazing, even for him. He keeps babbling that he needs NOTHING from Canada. Really? Where is he going to get the potash?

Aluminum, steel and lumber. The things needed to build the manufacturing plants he needs. He's just going to mow down forests for lumber. It doesn't matter that a lot of it is the wrong kind of lumber. Welcome to shoddy building practices, I guess?

Oh and the electricity in some states. Boy, putting a surcharge on that got his attention. "That's affecting people's actual lives. We can't have that." But he doesn't need anything. I guess the other stuff doesn't affect anyone.

I used to think that in business, if he went bankrupt oh well, walk away. He couldn't do that with a country, right? Maybe he can.

There's going to be long term damage. Trading partners are going elsewhere. Hardly anybody trusts him. I don't see trade coming back just because of an administration change whenever people clue in. Canada, the EU, the UK; why would they turn their backs on each other down the road just to go back to the States?


He may well starve us all.


Famines in modern history are caused by politics, not by crop failures or weather or climate change. We are not immune to this, even though Trump seems unaware of this. It could happen here, it happened before, it could happen again now.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 11:54     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


How? By making crops we can’t grow outside of greenhouses in the US and things we can’t manufacture but need to live more expensive? By destroying complex supply chains? He’s putting the cart before the horse. First you develop the capacity to make something, then you put a tariff on that one thing coming in from everywhere to encourage use of domestic capacity. He’s slapping tariffs on things like medications and food and the potash to grow food that people need, when we don’t have domestic capacity to produce it. And in some cases (like produced out of season and rare earth minerals) can’t produce it domestically. really can’t, And, in others, like manufacturing medicine it will take years to get domestic capacity online. In the meantime, Americans still need to buy the stuff, they just by less (hurt businesses) and pay more. Biden has it right with the CHIP Act. Bring plants online first. Then slap a tariff on foreign chips.

This is like Elmo and Doge taking a chainsaw to SSA. When they need a scalpel. Trump is taking the chainsaw tariff approach. When every reputable economist everywhere is saying use a scalpel.


That one is amazing, even for him. He keeps babbling that he needs NOTHING from Canada. Really? Where is he going to get the potash?

Aluminum, steel and lumber. The things needed to build the manufacturing plants he needs. He's just going to mow down forests for lumber. It doesn't matter that a lot of it is the wrong kind of lumber. Welcome to shoddy building practices, I guess?

Oh and the electricity in some states. Boy, putting a surcharge on that got his attention. "That's affecting people's actual lives. We can't have that." But he doesn't need anything. I guess the other stuff doesn't affect anyone.

I used to think that in business, if he went bankrupt oh well, walk away. He couldn't do that with a country, right? Maybe he can.

There's going to be long term damage. Trading partners are going elsewhere. Hardly anybody trusts him. I don't see trade coming back just because of an administration change whenever people clue in. Canada, the EU, the UK; why would they turn their backs on each other down the road just to go back to the States?


He may well starve us all.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 11:53     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


Says someone who doesn’t understand economics or capitalism.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 11:50     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


How? By making crops we can’t grow outside of greenhouses in the US and things we can’t manufacture but need to live more expensive? By destroying complex supply chains? He’s putting the cart before the horse. First you develop the capacity to make something, then you put a tariff on that one thing coming in from everywhere to encourage use of domestic capacity. He’s slapping tariffs on things like medications and food and the potash to grow food that people need, when we don’t have domestic capacity to produce it. And in some cases (like produced out of season and rare earth minerals) can’t produce it domestically. really can’t, And, in others, like manufacturing medicine it will take years to get domestic capacity online. In the meantime, Americans still need to buy the stuff, they just by less (hurt businesses) and pay more. Biden has it right with the CHIP Act. Bring plants online first. Then slap a tariff on foreign chips.

This is like Elmo and Doge taking a chainsaw to SSA. When they need a scalpel. Trump is taking the chainsaw tariff approach. When every reputable economist everywhere is saying use a scalpel.


That one is amazing, even for him. He keeps babbling that he needs NOTHING from Canada. Really? Where is he going to get the potash?

Aluminum, steel and lumber. The things needed to build the manufacturing plants he needs. He's just going to mow down forests for lumber. It doesn't matter that a lot of it is the wrong kind of lumber. Welcome to shoddy building practices, I guess?

Oh and the electricity in some states. Boy, putting a surcharge on that got his attention. "That's affecting people's actual lives. We can't have that." But he doesn't need anything. I guess the other stuff doesn't affect anyone.

I used to think that in business, if he went bankrupt oh well, walk away. He couldn't do that with a country, right? Maybe he can.

There's going to be long term damage. Trading partners are going elsewhere. Hardly anybody trusts him. I don't see trade coming back just because of an administration change whenever people clue in. Canada, the EU, the UK; why would they turn their backs on each other down the road just to go back to the States?
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 11:31     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:We are the worlds superpowers and have been getting screwed over by imbalanced trade agreements for 80 years. Trump is changing this, thank you Mr President! About time somebody stood up for the US


How? By making crops we can’t grow outside of greenhouses in the US and things we can’t manufacture but need to live more expensive? By destroying complex supply chains? He’s putting the cart before the horse. First you develop the capacity to make something, then you put a tariff on that one thing coming in from everywhere to encourage use of domestic capacity. He’s slapping tariffs on things like medications and food and the potash to grow food that people need, when we don’t have domestic capacity to produce it. And in some cases (like produced out of season and rare earth minerals) can’t produce it domestically. really can’t, And, in others, like manufacturing medicine it will take years to get domestic capacity online. In the meantime, Americans still need to buy the stuff, they just by less (hurt businesses) and pay more. Biden has it right with the CHIP Act. Bring plants online first. Then slap a tariff on foreign chips.

This is like Elmo and Doge taking a chainsaw to SSA. When they need a scalpel. Trump is taking the chainsaw tariff approach. When every reputable economist everywhere is saying use a scalpel.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 11:16     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:Trade between nations goes back centurys. When trade imbalances occur, its corrected by tariffs or war. Good for 47 trying to prevent ww3, which every administration since LBJ has been promoting.


Our trade imbalance, because of our strong dollar, benefits us. The only way correct this is to devalue our dollar by starting a trade war to destroy our economy.

This is going to hurt us. Why? So that we can more efficiently manufacture t-shirts here rather than buy them from there. We will have to transition away from a knowledge-based economy to devolve into a factory-based economy.

What is that saying? From shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations. Except no one thought it applied to countries...
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 10:52     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Well it’s too late. Trump has baked in 20-25 percent inflation in food prices with his stupidity already.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 10:43     Subject: What is April 2 “Liberation Day”?

Anonymous wrote:He has been threatening tariffs on the first of the month. Tariffs were threatened on the first of March, then he backed off. Then he chose the second of April so that it wouldn't be be mistaken for a joke of April Fool's Day.


Every day is a joke with this administration