Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 23:09     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.luminafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Give-the-kids-some-credit.pdf

Apparently only 10% of students look at a specific rank while searching for colleges and the influence of US News & rankings in general is waning. Is college admissions culture shifting to prioritizing fit above rank because of admissions difficulty, shifting methodologies, etc.?


10%? Don't believe it.

I can. Who is choosing Rutgers over Wake Forest because the former is now ranked higher than the latter? No one with sense.


The jaded Wake Forest alum is back! 🤣


I'm actually not an alum and have no connection to the university whatsoever.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 23:05     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If someone could compile a list of school heavy on social mobility, that would be a good list of school to avoid.


Why? This is such a bizarre perspective. All public schools should be measured on social mobility. That is what the taxpayers are looking for. A way to educate the kids in their state. The public wants to educate their kids because in general, college educated kids have higher lifetime earnings and are more likely to be a net benefit to the state. Why the heck would you be opposed to this?


If you are already in a good SES level then it doesn’t matter to you that the college is successful at recruiting first gen graduates for example. What matters is your own educational experience. This is about the student looking for a university not the taxpayer looking for a place to spend taxdollars.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:59     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If someone could compile a list of school heavy on social mobility, that would be a good list of school to avoid.


Why? This is such a bizarre perspective. All public schools should be measured on social mobility. That is what the taxpayers are looking for. A way to educate the kids in their state. The public wants to educate their kids because in general, college educated kids have higher lifetime earnings and are more likely to be a net benefit to the state. Why the heck would you be opposed to this?


Because despite all of the complaints, they aren’t really opposed to changes measuring social mobility. They’re opposed to the changes because a bunch of middling rich kid schools got downgraded (Wake, Tulane, Pepperdine, Miami). Notice how the T20 privates did just fine despite the changes.


+1

T50s like Boston College and Boston University did just fine as well.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:57     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If someone could compile a list of school heavy on social mobility, that would be a good list of school to avoid.


Why? This is such a bizarre perspective. All public schools should be measured on social mobility. That is what the taxpayers are looking for. A way to educate the kids in their state. The public wants to educate their kids because in general, college educated kids have higher lifetime earnings and are more likely to be a net benefit to the state. Why the heck would you be opposed to this?


Because despite all of the complaints, they aren’t really opposed to changes measuring social mobility. They’re opposed to the changes because a bunch of middling rich kid schools got downgraded (Wake, Tulane, Pepperdine, Miami). Notice how the T20 privates did just fine despite the changes.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:53     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Never thought Wake Forest was anything special but their rankings fell off a cliff. Nice campus but Wake lives in Duke’s shadow.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:52     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If someone could compile a list of school heavy on social mobility, that would be a good list of school to avoid.


Why? This is such a bizarre perspective. All public schools should be measured on social mobility. That is what the taxpayers are looking for. A way to educate the kids in their state. The public wants to educate their kids because in general, college educated kids have higher lifetime earnings and are more likely to be a net benefit to the state. Why the heck would you be opposed to this?


+1000

Exactly.

The private school lacrosse bros are upset.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:51     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Yes my DD didn't consider it at all. It's too generic for individual needs and weighs some irrelevant criteria she wasn't interested in.

There is no one-size-fits-all ranking for something that is all about individual "fit".
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:51     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People know that USNWR rankings are very narrowly focused on social mobility so not relevant to many applicants. Glad to see people are starting to use their own priorities to evaluate schools and not follow set rankings like USNWR.


Agree. Told my senior the same. Once they started adding in variables that had little to do with what matters to the student experience (class size, graduation rates, etc) then we started looking elsewhere in our decision making.


The Pell grant criteria is literally measuring graduation rates.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:49     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:If someone could compile a list of school heavy on social mobility, that would be a good list of school to avoid.


Why? This is such a bizarre perspective. All public schools should be measured on social mobility. That is what the taxpayers are looking for. A way to educate the kids in their state. The public wants to educate their kids because in general, college educated kids have higher lifetime earnings and are more likely to be a net benefit to the state. Why the heck would you be opposed to this?
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:38     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:US News ranking methodology jumped the shark when it pumped up publics by increasing the weight of Pell.

When such a factor isn't relevant to a particular family looking at colleges, the ranking stops reflecting factors that matter to them.


This
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:11     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.luminafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Give-the-kids-some-credit.pdf

Apparently only 10% of students look at a specific rank while searching for colleges and the influence of US News & rankings in general is waning. Is college admissions culture shifting to prioritizing fit above rank because of admissions difficulty, shifting methodologies, etc.?


"...What did we find? Most students report considering some sources of rankings (around 6 in 10)...."

6 in 10 is 60%. Not 10%

And...they like Niche more. Great rankings there.

Nice try.


Read the whole
Report.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:10     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:If someone could compile a list of school heavy on social mobility, that would be a good list of school to avoid.

love this.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:05     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.luminafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Give-the-kids-some-credit.pdf

Apparently only 10% of students look at a specific rank while searching for colleges and the influence of US News & rankings in general is waning. Is college admissions culture shifting to prioritizing fit above rank because of admissions difficulty, shifting methodologies, etc.?


10%? Don't believe it.

I can. Who is choosing Rutgers over Wake Forest because the former is now ranked higher than the latter? No one with sense.


The jaded Wake Forest alum is back! 🤣



+1
Right? Rutgers is a great school - not sure why the PP thinks Wake Forest is any better.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 22:02     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:https://www.luminafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Give-the-kids-some-credit.pdf

Apparently only 10% of students look at a specific rank while searching for colleges and the influence of US News & rankings in general is waning. Is college admissions culture shifting to prioritizing fit above rank because of admissions difficulty, shifting methodologies, etc.?


"...What did we find? Most students report considering some sources of rankings (around 6 in 10)...."

6 in 10 is 60%. Not 10%

And...they like Niche more. Great rankings there.

Nice try.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 21:34     Subject: Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.luminafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Give-the-kids-some-credit.pdf

Apparently only 10% of students look at a specific rank while searching for colleges and the influence of US News & rankings in general is waning. Is college admissions culture shifting to prioritizing fit above rank because of admissions difficulty, shifting methodologies, etc.?


10%? Don't believe it.

I can. Who is choosing Rutgers over Wake Forest because the former is now ranked higher than the latter? No one with sense.


+1