Midd seems to be dropping.

Anonymous wrote:williams > amherst > colgate > bowdoin > lehigh > middlebury > w&m > wesleyan = tufts = hamilton = HC > the rest of nescac and PL

Laughable. Colgate and Lehigh are safety schools for the kids aiming for AWS, Bowdoin, Middlebury.

Anonymous wrote:Why do all high school males list their career goal as “make all the money!” Never any nuance.

Is it because you weren’t inspired during high school to have thoughts?

I find that to be particularly noticeable at the Catholic universities (ND, Holy Cross, Villanova, BC) and high schools. So many of the boys I have met from Gonzaga, Chaminade, Delbarton, etc. were pre-business.

As one who spent most of his career on Wall Street, I prefer to hire smart, well-rounded kids who will learn quickly rather than the hard core pre-finance types who did undergrad business programs and pre-business clubs, etc.

Why do all high school males list their career goal as “make all the money!” Never any nuance.

Is it because you weren’t inspired during high school to have thoughts?

williams > amherst > colgate > bowdoin > lehigh > middlebury > w&m > wesleyan = tufts = hamilton = HC > the rest of nescac and PL

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Anonymous wrote:Colgate and Holy Cross would be the best from the Patriot League.

Both great schools but if one wants engineering it is Lehigh hands down.

Yes, but engineering is different from finance and consulting which is the topic of the thread.

Anonymous wrote:Colgate and Holy Cross would be the best from the Patriot League.

Both great schools but if one wants engineering it is Lehigh hands down.

Colgate and Holy Cross would be the best from the Patriot League.

Colgate is probably the best overall from the Patriot league followed by Lehigh.

I have heard that Holy Cross places well, particularly in Boston

Is Lehigh over Colgate considered the best patriot league school for finance and consulting outcomes?

These are the top-20 NESCAC and Patriot League schools from the IDEAS (economics) site posted up-topic:

1. Williams (NESCAC)

4. Middlebury (NESCAC)

6. Colgate (Patriot League)
7. Amherst (NESCAC)
8. Hamilton (NESCAC)
9. Wesleyan (NESCAC)

12. Lafayette (Patriot League)
13. Holy Cross (Patriot League)
14. Bowdoin (NESCAC)
15. Bates (NESCAC)

20. Colby (NESCAC)

Note that (1) the analysis has not been normalized for school or department size, so it will somewhat tend to favor larger schools as well as any with graduate departments in economics (notably Williams); and, (2) by definition, universities were excluded.

Anonymous wrote:my kiddo had the same choice - there are a number of sports that recruit from the same pool of kids, and the level of play is very similar. I wouldn’t say that the Williams wrestling team could compete with Bucknell, but i believe their x country team could most years.

If the choice is Williams or Bowdoin, go there - other than that it’s a coin flip

You were pretty good until your last sentence. Overall both groups are great schools; the top of the NESCAC is considered stronger than the top of the Patriot league but there isn’t a bad school in the bunch.

There is no objective difference between Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, and Williams with Hamilton and Wesleyan more similar than different as well. Colgate and BU are similarly selective and Holy Cross only slightly less selective.

Go where you feel the best fit though if you are a recruited athletes the NESCAC schools provide high level athletics within a more typical college experience.

and for a career in big tech, think associate product manager or solution engineer at a google, meta, or salesforce, that Lehigh split engineering business major is a direct path to a coveted entry level role - nescacs kill it in certain pockets, but the lehigh bucknell colgate type schools cast a much wider net

big generalization I know, but bulk of athletes at these schools pursue careers in business (most, but certainly not all).

This may be an unpopular opinion on DCUM, which tends to luv the upper tier SLACs, but outcomes from Lehigh or Colgate probably rival the top two Nescacs (arguably Williams and Bowdoin) for NYC finance and consulting positions -