Middlebury’s ranking started falling after it acquired MIIS, which is losing money and diluting the college’s resources. The new president needs to let it go and reprioritize the undergraduate college.

Hamilton and Vassar are also ranked higher than Midd and that seems right to me. Middlebury is having trouble attracting talented faculty in certain areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely one of the top 10.

Schools like Carleton Harvey Mudd are largely irrelevant but ranked higher.

Harvey Mudd is much more relevant in todays stem climate than midd ever has been.

Way too narrowly focused on CS. With the CS job cuts drastically nowadays, that only niche is also gone.

With Trump in white house, the "stem climate" is highly dubious.

Like Carleton, HMC is not a strong feeder to Wall Street, med school, or law school.

They are specialized (or in that sense, "special") schools tailored for a small sub-population.

It's not a narrow focus, just students choose CS more often than other majors. They are still a top grad feeder in mathematics, physics, chem/bio, and their engineering grads go off into great gigs. You can entirely avoid CS at Harvey Mudd, but you can't avoid the natural sciences and engineering.

It doesn't matter how you spin it. HMC does not have any good outcome in high finance, med/law school.

I would acknowledge that it's a great engineering school. YBY.

How does it not? Why make medical research more important than biological or chemistry research? If a Mudd kid wants to do finance, they are one of the few institutions where it is pretty achievable to get into Quant Finance, but most students there are actually interested in social good/research, not just doing the field with the absolute most money. If you're looking for prestige chasers, go to the ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely one of the top 10.

Schools like Carleton Harvey Mudd are largely irrelevant but ranked higher.

Harvey Mudd is much more relevant in todays stem climate than midd ever has been.

Way too narrowly focused on CS. With the CS job cuts drastically nowadays, that only niche is also gone.

With Trump in white house, the "stem climate" is highly dubious.

Like Carleton, HMC is not a strong feeder to Wall Street, med school, or law school.

They are specialized (or in that sense, "special") schools tailored for a small sub-population.

It's not a narrow focus, just students choose CS more often than other majors. They are still a top grad feeder in mathematics, physics, chem/bio, and their engineering grads go off into great gigs. You can entirely avoid CS at Harvey Mudd, but you can't avoid the natural sciences and engineering.

It doesn't matter how you spin it. HMC does not have any good outcome in high finance, med/law school.

I would acknowledge that it's a great engineering school. YBY.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely one of the top 10.

Schools like Carleton Harvey Mudd are largely irrelevant but ranked higher.

Harvey Mudd is much more relevant in todays stem climate than midd ever has been.

Way too narrowly focused on CS. With the CS job cuts drastically nowadays, that only niche is also gone.

With Trump in white house, the "stem climate" is highly dubious.

Like Carleton, HMC is not a strong feeder to Wall Street, med school, or law school.

They are specialized (or in that sense, "special") schools tailored for a small sub-population.

It's not a narrow focus, just students choose CS more often than other majors. They are still a top grad feeder in mathematics, physics, chem/bio, and their engineering grads go off into great gigs. You can entirely avoid CS at Harvey Mudd, but you can't avoid the natural sciences and engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely one of the top 10.

Schools like Carleton Harvey Mudd are largely irrelevant but ranked higher.

Harvey Mudd is much more relevant in todays stem climate than midd ever has been.

Way too narrowly focused on CS. With the CS job cuts drastically nowadays, that only niche is also gone.

With Trump in white house, the "stem climate" is highly dubious.

Like Carleton, HMC is not a strong feeder to Wall Street, med school, or law school.

They are specialized (or in that sense, "special") schools tailored for a small sub-population.

Rankings are not real. They are click bait.

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely one of the top 10.

Schools like Carleton Harvey Mudd are largely irrelevant but ranked higher.

Harvey Mudd is much more relevant in todays stem climate than midd ever has been.

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people here are quoting WalletHub as a real source. The author of that article got a degree in creative writing in 2017 from JHU, which by sheer coincidence, made it into the top 10 on this list.

WalletHub appears to be a less refined ranking than those available through U.S. News. Nonetheless, its somewhat different underlying measures may be of interest to some. Its primary distinction, however, may be that it offers a broader perspective by ranking universities and colleges together.

I'd disregard the comment about JHU, a school which, by objective measures, placed where it should have.

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people here are quoting WalletHub as a real source. The author of that article got a degree in creative writing in 2017 from JHU, which by sheer coincidence, made it into the top 10 on this list.

John’s hopkins is a top creative writing program though? They’re just more known for their annoying premed culture.

In a U.S. News category with 211 schools, a ranking of #19 seems quite high. Moreover, Middlebury's U.S. News Overall Score of 90 (on a 1 to 100 scale) is barely below that of some higher ranked schools.

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people here are quoting WalletHub as a real source. The author of that article got a degree in creative writing in 2017 from JHU, which by sheer coincidence, made it into the top 10 on this list.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not just about PhDs. For 13 years straight, Carleton has been ranked first for best undergraduate teaching.

Yes, Carleton is a good teaching school. But their outcome is mostly directed to phd. No a feeder to Wall Street, not a strong med school feeder or law school feeder.

Outcomes at midd and Colgate are on par w Bowdoin and Williams.

I think it’s partly bcs kids are wealthier (ie, not as many kids on fa) and have connections on Wall Street etc

Anonymous wrote:I agree with previous poster. Middlebury is a decent school but nothing special about it.

Because it’s a well-rounded school! What’s special about Amherst or Bowdoin?