Our breeder is great but I would not want to.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All I see in shelters where I live is pit mixes. Curious if anyone has considered breeding to give puppies away

This is the stupidest trollbait on the stupidest forum on the best site for trollololz...

"shelters" are the last-ditch resort of bad breeders/owners, and are frequently filled with dogs someone simply turned loose rather than try to responsibly rehome, or dogs that were impounded from criminally-negligent breeders. Yes, you do occassionally find a decent owner-surrender. But more often, they're the "last resort" place for last resort dogs.

If you haven't learned that there are for-profit and non-profit breed rescues, it's simply because you didn't bother to google "how to adopt a dog" and do some homework first. I said it and meant it: people like you shouldn't own dogs. You'll get a breed because it's "cute" or "not a pit bull", put the same amount of effort into learning how to care for it that you did in selecting it, and become the sort of ignorant AH dog owner who gives the rest of us responsibly caring for our properly-trained animals a bad name.

Again, you're a troll posting ragebait, and it's not even a high-quality shitpost, but there's the reality for anyone sane who might be reading.

Angry pit bull owner alert.

I guess that makes me one, as well. PP's post is solid. People who can train a dog can train a pit bull. People who can't train a dog can't train any breed of dog. You're either willing to put in the work to learn or you're on the internet, calling names and hurling insults.

+100
And pitts are not the most difficult dogs to train - in general, they relatively smart, food motivated, engaged and not particularly stubborn, good combo to work with

They didn't acquire the nickname "couch hippos" for no reason! They're more of a velcro dog than most toy breeds, and really want to spend most of the time lazing on the couch

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I see in shelters where I live is pit mixes. Curious if anyone has considered breeding to give puppies away

This is the stupidest trollbait on the stupidest forum on the best site for trollololz...

"shelters" are the last-ditch resort of bad breeders/owners, and are frequently filled with dogs someone simply turned loose rather than try to responsibly rehome, or dogs that were impounded from criminally-negligent breeders. Yes, you do occassionally find a decent owner-surrender. But more often, they're the "last resort" place for last resort dogs.

If you haven't learned that there are for-profit and non-profit breed rescues, it's simply because you didn't bother to google "how to adopt a dog" and do some homework first. I said it and meant it: people like you shouldn't own dogs. You'll get a breed because it's "cute" or "not a pit bull", put the same amount of effort into learning how to care for it that you did in selecting it, and become the sort of ignorant AH dog owner who gives the rest of us responsibly caring for our properly-trained animals a bad name.

Again, you're a troll posting ragebait, and it's not even a high-quality shitpost, but there's the reality for anyone sane who might be reading.

Angry pit bull owner alert.

I guess that makes me one, as well. PP's post is solid. People who can train a dog can train a pit bull. People who can't train a dog can't train any breed of dog. You're either willing to put in the work to learn or you're on the internet, calling names and hurling insults.

+100
And pitts are not the most difficult dogs to train - in general, they relatively smart, food motivated, engaged and not particularly stubborn, good combo to work with

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Anonymous wrote:We have an intact male purebred, stipulated as a condition of sale. Our breeder wanted to retain breeding rights, as his parents were champion show dogs. It turns out that never happened and our breeder retired. But yes, we would have been open to breeding our dog, because he was genetically healthy and his breed isn't known for having dire health issues.

Separately, I foster puppies and pregnant dogs for a local VA rescue. MOST of the puppies are pit mixes - and they're docile and trainable. I do their potty and leash-training, and teach them basic commands. Out of dozens, I've only ever had two litters that were not immediately recognizable as pit mixes: one was very Labrador looking, and the other looked like terriers. People who are looking for a rescue that isn't a recognizable pit mix might indeed take years to find one!

It doesn't take years to find shepherd one. Right now, there is a mom and 9 out of 11 of her pups are up for adoption at Lucky Dog, I'm in love... (but shepherds are no way easier or less dangerous then pitts if you ask me)
Momma
https://toolkit.rescuegroups.org/javascript/v2.0/template1?animalID=21270327&key=Mqr6gy1W
My fav pup (I wish I could adopt one)
https://toolkit.rescuegroups.org/javascript/v2.0/template1?animalID=21292409&key=Mqr6gy1W

That's so real! They're so cute, but they need to work. Without active engagement and careful handling, they're terrors!

And the hip issues are no joke

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I see in shelters where I live is pit mixes. Curious if anyone has considered breeding to give puppies away

This is the stupidest trollbait on the stupidest forum on the best site for trollololz...

"shelters" are the last-ditch resort of bad breeders/owners, and are frequently filled with dogs someone simply turned loose rather than try to responsibly rehome, or dogs that were impounded from criminally-negligent breeders. Yes, you do occassionally find a decent owner-surrender. But more often, they're the "last resort" place for last resort dogs.

If you haven't learned that there are for-profit and non-profit breed rescues, it's simply because you didn't bother to google "how to adopt a dog" and do some homework first. I said it and meant it: people like you shouldn't own dogs. You'll get a breed because it's "cute" or "not a pit bull", put the same amount of effort into learning how to care for it that you did in selecting it, and become the sort of ignorant AH dog owner who gives the rest of us responsibly caring for our properly-trained animals a bad name.

Again, you're a troll posting ragebait, and it's not even a high-quality shitpost, but there's the reality for anyone sane who might be reading.

Angry pit bull owner alert.

I guess that makes me one, as well. PP's post is solid. People who can train a dog can train a pit bull. People who can't train a dog can't train any breed of dog. You're either willing to put in the work to learn or you're on the internet, calling names and hurling insults.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I see in shelters where I live is pit mixes. Curious if anyone has considered breeding to give puppies away

This is the stupidest trollbait on the stupidest forum on the best site for trollololz...

"shelters" are the last-ditch resort of bad breeders/owners, and are frequently filled with dogs someone simply turned loose rather than try to responsibly rehome, or dogs that were impounded from criminally-negligent breeders. Yes, you do occassionally find a decent owner-surrender. But more often, they're the "last resort" place for last resort dogs.

If you haven't learned that there are for-profit and non-profit breed rescues, it's simply because you didn't bother to google "how to adopt a dog" and do some homework first. I said it and meant it: people like you shouldn't own dogs. You'll get a breed because it's "cute" or "not a pit bull", put the same amount of effort into learning how to care for it that you did in selecting it, and become the sort of ignorant AH dog owner who gives the rest of us responsibly caring for our properly-trained animals a bad name.

Again, you're a troll posting ragebait, and it's not even a high-quality shitpost, but there's the reality for anyone sane who might be reading.

Angry pit bull owner alert.

Drunk, unhinged "Karen" poster alert!

Anonymous wrote:We have an intact male purebred, stipulated as a condition of sale. Our breeder wanted to retain breeding rights, as his parents were champion show dogs. It turns out that never happened and our breeder retired. But yes, we would have been open to breeding our dog, because he was genetically healthy and his breed isn't known for having dire health issues.

Separately, I foster puppies and pregnant dogs for a local VA rescue. MOST of the puppies are pit mixes - and they're docile and trainable. I do their potty and leash-training, and teach them basic commands. Out of dozens, I've only ever had two litters that were not immediately recognizable as pit mixes: one was very Labrador looking, and the other looked like terriers. People who are looking for a rescue that isn't a recognizable pit mix might indeed take years to find one!

It doesn't take years to find shepherd one. Right now, there is a mom and 9 out of 11 of her pups are up for adoption at Lucky Dog, I'm in love... (but shepherds are no way easier or less dangerous then pitts if you ask me)
Momma
https://toolkit.rescuegroups.org/javascript/v2.0/template1?animalID=21270327&key=Mqr6gy1W
My fav pup (I wish I could adopt one)
https://toolkit.rescuegroups.org/javascript/v2.0/template1?animalID=21292409&key=Mqr6gy1W

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I see in shelters where I live is pit mixes. Curious if anyone has considered breeding to give puppies away

This is the stupidest trollbait on the stupidest forum on the best site for trollololz...

"shelters" are the last-ditch resort of bad breeders/owners, and are frequently filled with dogs someone simply turned loose rather than try to responsibly rehome, or dogs that were impounded from criminally-negligent breeders. Yes, you do occassionally find a decent owner-surrender. But more often, they're the "last resort" place for last resort dogs.

If you haven't learned that there are for-profit and non-profit breed rescues, it's simply because you didn't bother to google "how to adopt a dog" and do some homework first. I said it and meant it: people like you shouldn't own dogs. You'll get a breed because it's "cute" or "not a pit bull", put the same amount of effort into learning how to care for it that you did in selecting it, and become the sort of ignorant AH dog owner who gives the rest of us responsibly caring for our properly-trained animals a bad name.

Again, you're a troll posting ragebait, and it's not even a high-quality shitpost, but there's the reality for anyone sane who might be reading.

Angry pit bull owner alert.

I have two chihuahuas, adopted from rescue, but go off. Let me guess, for your next trick, you'll call me a Karen?

We have an intact male purebred, stipulated as a condition of sale. Our breeder wanted to retain breeding rights, as his parents were champion show dogs. It turns out that never happened and our breeder retired. But yes, we would have been open to breeding our dog, because he was genetically healthy and his breed isn't known for having dire health issues.

Separately, I foster puppies and pregnant dogs for a local VA rescue. MOST of the puppies are pit mixes - and they're docile and trainable. I do their potty and leash-training, and teach them basic commands. Out of dozens, I've only ever had two litters that were not immediately recognizable as pit mixes: one was very Labrador looking, and the other looked like terriers. People who are looking for a rescue that isn't a recognizable pit mix might indeed take years to find one!

I’m doing it right now. It’s not profitable, I will lose money in it, but my dog is so awesome I want a puppy out of her. She won national level events and is just a phenomenal house dog—a combination I’ve waited years for and I want to hold on to these genes.

To do it right though I had to train and title her in multiple things to prove bidability and instinct to justify breeding. She is a herding cross, so I put basic herding titles on her and then have high level sport titles in a couple venues. We had to travel pretty far for the bigger events. I had to submit X-rays to a specialty vet, do a cardiac work up, have her eyes evaluated to prove physical caliber. (She’s a mix so at least I could skip conformation, but most purebreds will want those titles too) I had to research and find a male who balanced her minor flaws and had the temperament and titles I wanted to pass on with on. The stud dog isn’t local, so we went back and forth on shipping semen or transporting the dog for live cover. It didn’t take with shipped, so next heat cycle we’ll be trying to get him to her.

At the end of the day I will maybe get 3-4 puppies (she’s small). I’ll keep one, the stud owner will take one, so maybe I can sell one or two for $1500 (but they will probably go to sport friends who have wanted a clone of my dog forever) Of course, there’s also the chance I get zero, or my dog has an emergency during whelping and something traumatic happens.

But suppose it all goes smoothly, I then have tiny needy puppies pooping and peeing all over their pen for 10 weeks, I will devote all my free time to individual socialization and exposure to the world. It’s a lot.

I have my breeder mentoring me and helping me out along the way, because there is so much involved. I’m grateful she has done this for 45 years so she has seen it all!

But yeah, I’m negative a million dollars in the hole from this. It is a labor of love, not a financial gain.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I see in shelters where I live is pit mixes. Curious if anyone has considered breeding to give puppies away

This is the stupidest trollbait on the stupidest forum on the best site for trollololz...

"shelters" are the last-ditch resort of bad breeders/owners, and are frequently filled with dogs someone simply turned loose rather than try to responsibly rehome, or dogs that were impounded from criminally-negligent breeders. Yes, you do occassionally find a decent owner-surrender. But more often, they're the "last resort" place for last resort dogs.

If you haven't learned that there are for-profit and non-profit breed rescues, it's simply because you didn't bother to google "how to adopt a dog" and do some homework first. I said it and meant it: people like you shouldn't own dogs. You'll get a breed because it's "cute" or "not a pit bull", put the same amount of effort into learning how to care for it that you did in selecting it, and become the sort of ignorant AH dog owner who gives the rest of us responsibly caring for our properly-trained animals a bad name.

Again, you're a troll posting ragebait, and it's not even a high-quality shitpost, but there's the reality for anyone sane who might be reading.

Angry pit bull owner alert.

No. Our dog is on a limited registration from the breeder so no. Plus taking care of all of the puppies isn't exactly something most people can do working outside of the home.

Anonymous wrote:It is extremely difficult and expensive to breed dogs in a manner that is ethical and responsible. Leave it to experts.

This. The experts will be the first to tell you that breeding high-quality dogs is NOT a moneymaker. The show fees, genetic checks, etc. that corroborate a high-value dog's price cost WAY more than the dog will ever bring back, and that's before you account for training, overhead, feed/vetting...

Dogs aren't a moneymaker. Period.

Anonymous wrote:All I see in shelters where I live is pit mixes. Curious if anyone has considered breeding to give puppies away

This is the stupidest trollbait on the stupidest forum on the best site for trollololz...

"shelters" are the last-ditch resort of bad breeders/owners, and are frequently filled with dogs someone simply turned loose rather than try to responsibly rehome, or dogs that were impounded from criminally-negligent breeders. Yes, you do occassionally find a decent owner-surrender. But more often, they're the "last resort" place for last resort dogs.

If you haven't learned that there are for-profit and non-profit breed rescues, it's simply because you didn't bother to google "how to adopt a dog" and do some homework first. I said it and meant it: people like you shouldn't own dogs. You'll get a breed because it's "cute" or "not a pit bull", put the same amount of effort into learning how to care for it that you did in selecting it, and become the sort of ignorant AH dog owner who gives the rest of us responsibly caring for our properly-trained animals a bad name.

Again, you're a troll posting ragebait, and it's not even a high-quality shitpost, but there's the reality for anyone sane who might be reading.

It is extremely difficult and expensive to breed dogs in a manner that is ethical and responsible. Leave it to experts.